Alignment creatures and alignment spells


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Scarab Sages

All this talk about alignment being altered by aligned spells has me wondering. How are Dragons and aligned outsiders affected by casting spells of alignments not their own? Do the dragons change colors if they cast too many spells of another alignment? How about Daemons casting too many lawful spell, do they become devils?

Oh, and while I'm there, does the use of abilties like Deliver Touch Spells count as casting the spell for alignment purposes?

Silver Crusade

Alignment (not the subtype) and Creature Type are two different things. A Daemon using enough lawful spells/other acts wouldn't become a Devil, it would either be a) a LE Daemon or b) a completely unique creature.

Scarab Sages

Rysky wrote:
Alignment (not the subtype) and Creature Type are two different things. A Daemon using enough lawful spells/other acts wouldn't become a Devil, it would either be a) a LE Daemon or b) a completely unique creature.

That's what I thought, but I figured it was worth double checking.

So related, they aren't restricted from casting those spells, right?

For that matter, can Dragons and aligned outsiders actually change their alignments?

Silver Crusade

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Murdock Mudeater wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Alignment (not the subtype) and Creature Type are two different things. A Daemon using enough lawful spells/other acts wouldn't become a Devil, it would either be a) a LE Daemon or b) a completely unique creature.

That's what I thought, but I figured it was worth double checking.

So related, they aren't restricted from casting those spells, right?

For that matter, can Dragons and aligned outsiders actually change their alignments?

Unless the spells are divinely granted then nope, not restricted.

And yes, though it's very rare, moreso for Outsiders than Dragons (read Wrath of the Righteous and The Redemption Engine for good Outsider examples).

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