RotRL AE (2012) (Inactive)

Game Master mittean

Ill equipped to stop a wagon, Dherisan begins scanning the area around the potential catastrophe, looking for other ways he might mitigate damage - people in its path, something he might use to create a barrier, anyway he might influence the outcome without involving himself with the wagon directly.

Corvus looks on as she sees a number of people converging on a point and wonders what all the fuss is about. She heads in the direction but at her usual pace rather than in a hurry. 'Perhaps it's one of the attractions', she muses, not wishing to break into a run and look foolish.

Let's move the rping over to the gameplay thread.

Alright, ladies and gents, let's do some introductions.

My name is Brian. I live in Utah with my wife and two daughters, 5 and 6. I grew up here, but have lived all over the western U.S.

I am 35, and studied business and film in college (of which I technically am still finishing up, but it is very informal at this time), and I own my own production company, and am a founding member of another one. I mostly produce movies, but this year I did direct my first film over 100k, and I have two slated in the next year we are finishing up details on. (one of which is a fantasy film I am developing with an rpg industry celebrity writer. Gush)

I have more time to post, as I control when I work, but when it comes shoot time, my posts stop. But they always start again once principal is completed, so just a heads-up. But I also have less time, as I work all the time, have a family and a company to run, public events to go to, and school...sort of. I average three to five posts a day, five days a week.

I have been gaming since red box, and use pathfinder exclusively. I like characters to feel like they are heroes for surviving, for solving a problem, for conquering. But you will limp away from a lot of things. My goal isn't to kill your PC...it's for you to foil me doing it. Be cinematic in your descriptions. I'll tell you what you need to do to accomplish that...if you can.

Keep in mind, I am not a writer...but it is my job to turn writer's stories into better stories, so if you feel I'm nit-picking, I apologize...it's one of the major things I do for a living, and My intention is to make your writing more streamlined, more to form, or just more fun. :)

If your character dies, and the party cannot think of a way to bring you back...grab a bucket of popcorn. I'll always do what I can to bring you back, but I dislike cousin-ing in new characters. Case-by-case basis.

Let's have everyone introduce themselves!

Im Alex, I live in SW Ohio, where I have been all my life. Im only 17, but have been playing PF for about 18 months now, and it really picked up over the summer. Even with school starting again, I have the time to post 3-4 times a day.

Ive played PF, DnD 4e and 3.5, with some MTG on the side.

My name is Mark, I live in England (I am already suffering post-Olympic withdrawal symptoms) and I'm probably the oldest member of the group.

I'm a role player of over two decades of experience. I started with Tunnels and Trolls and moved on to home brew post-apocalyptic campaigns, Warhammer, Twilight 2000, Shadowrun etc. etc.

Never a fan of D&D and AD&D (I still remember overhearing a heated debate about a +3 dagger) yet love Pathfinder. Also enjoy Dark Heresy, Star Wars and spending hours rolling characters for any system I can lay my hands on. I have been playing PbP for three years now but had a break for about twelve months as too many games folded leaving me frustrated - but the bug has bitten again.

I tend to play character's with a twist - and I'm definitely up for the role never the roll.

I'm Steve and I live in Florida, and I bet I'm the eldest player on the group at a spry and energetic 52. Born and raised in NC, and moved to Florida 17 years ago.

Still have the little white box D&D in my closet, so have been playing since about 1976 or 1977...and have played so many systems it's hard to recall them all.

Welcome, Alex, Mark and Steve.

Make sure school is your priority, Alex. ;) I never condone slacking school or work to game, which I'm sure none of us will. Glad to have you onboard. It's good to have some youth.

Mark, I actually only got updates about the Olympics from my wife. I couldn't go when we had the Olympics here, and have never watched them as much as I'd like. :(

I don't have any of my oldest stuff anymore, Steve, mores the pitty. I have tons of second edition (I lost the first edition box), however.

Here is an example of the stat block I am looking for from everyone.

Bold all headings, bigger all sections, only one spoiler for the whole character. Links to all feats, traits, flaws, if you can, etc. Pathfinder SRD is the best option. Italicize anything magical, or different. For example, if you use power attack, state that before the attack.

Wow. I'm gonna have to reconsider this game. It takes seconds for me to keep Hero Lab up to date, and this will require a lot of time...plus I have no idea how to link. Let me stew on in overnight.

Heyo- Lewis here, currently 19 and doing a law degree in Australia. Started playing pathfinder about eight months ago at the local organized play club, and that is my only roleplaying experience.

Since then I have joined in about 20 PBP games and read in their entirety at least 12 roleplaying game-based webcomics.

Looking forward to playing with you fellows.

Linking is easy, Steve, and herolab gives you a perfect base to start from.
To link, open your webpage (say, magic missile on www.d20srd.com). Type ), and title it. (Say, Magic missile, as in the example). Finish it with . It will look like this:
Magic missile,
and will link to the magic missile entry, so that I can look up the spell rules with one click.

Lewis, welcome! Hopefully this pbp is to your liking. Good luck with the law degree, I do not envy you, lol.

Hey, name's Drew, 27 years old. I'm originally from Indiana, USA, but I've spent the last year and a half teaching English in Tianjin, China, and will probably be hear for another year and a half before I start looking for gigs in Southeast Asia. Because of that, I'm probably on a different schedule than everyone but Nathaniel.

I studied English in university, originally because I wanted to be a writer, but as I grew more intrigued with the study of the language itself, and not just its application, I started leaning towards education.

I've been interested in tabletops RPGS ever since I bought the 2nd edition monster manual when I was 11, but wasn't actually able to find a play group until halfway through high school. Since then, D&D (and later Pathfinder) have been my chief vehicle for gaming, but I like to table in other games, particularly Shadowrun and Cold Steel Reign.

I'm in the office all day today, and it's karaoke night at the local expat pub, but I've got tomorrow off, so I'll work on getting everything with my character sorted out then.

Awesome, Drew! China is a goal on my list. :)

Now that I start to update my character for the house rules, I'm starting to get what everyone was fussing about. Sorry but there are just too many of them. Going to have to bow out.

Well personally i'm taking the house rules as a challenge.

Peoples, I think we should confer on Teamwork feats- we all get one and more for free, we should work out what combos we get.

I think Pack Attack would be good, any other suggestions?

Mittean, just sent you my char sheet, minus teamwork feat choices.

Lol, I'm with you, Nathaniel. I'm not offended by anyone bowing out, of course, but the rules actually aren't as confusing as they sound. I've just found when I write them out I have to be more verbose to cover different scenarios.

I also find that the rules are exactly the same for characters...roll high, I tell you if you hit and how much damage. If you need to roll higher, spend one of the points I give you. You have more HP and more feats. Fairly straight forward.

Alright, so as of now, we still have Nathaniel, Corvus, Zaigon, and possibly Abraham. I'm fine with that (and actually figured we'd lose a few, it is pbp after all).

That gives us an Aasimar monk, possibly an Aasimar cleric, a half-elf summoner and a human barbarian.

I do have a buddy who is considering coming on board with an oracle, so that may help bolster us, if he does.

Alright, lets look at characters! I tried posting an example stat block, and apparently it was removed, although I didn't realize it.

Take a look at Demon. This is how I structure my characters, and makes it the easiest for me to read.

Alright! Destiny points. Everyone starts with one. They can be used to auto max crit, to auto save, to make the great jump...whatever. Go big. :)

Action points. They add 1d6 to any roll. You can stack them. (Add 4d6 damage to that arrow). You start with five. (Four plus your level)

Hero points. You get five every level. Being heroic can earn you more. You get a +10 before any d20 roll (in a separate post from the roll), or +5 at the same time or after the roll.

Luck points. Re-roll any roll. If you roll a natural 20, you gain one. If you roll a natural 1, you lose one. If you go into negatives...watch out for the elite's, they'll have some extra points to spend themselves. :) All of you start with 1d6 (Roll in the discussion board, that'll be fine) + 1 + your ChaMod.

So Nathaniel, 1d6+6
Corvus 1d6+2
Zaigon 1d6+1
and Abraham 1d6+4.

Next up: Defense scores and DR.

Defense and DR

Alright, Abraham, you have scale mail on, so your DR is DR/5 armor (looks like you have something similar on there, nice) Your Defense is 10, and your critical defense is 15. :) Great job!
You of course also have your resistances from being an Aasimar.

Zaigon, you have your Aasimar resistances as well, and you have a 14 Dex and are a monk with a Wis of 16. Your Defense should be 15, with DR/0 armor. Your critical defense is 15.

Corvus, you are not wearing armor, so have a Defense and critical defense of 10, and DR/0 armor. :) Let's get you some protection, young lady!

Nathaniel, yours is a little more complex, especially because your character sheet seems to have a lot of stuff from a higher level pbp...so help me out.

I think you are wearing leather armor, which you are proficient in, and you have a Dex of 12. So, without your Eidilon on board, you should have a Defense of 11, and a DR/2 armor. Lets sort out what your Eidilon is for appropriate level, and get it up, and get your sheet in a format I can read without searching. :)

Alright, so that should get us through the first 8 points on my rules. Over a third of the way there! Next will be HP, Vigor and WP's. :)

Nathaniel if you can, please adapt your character sheet and put it on here. I don't always do this from a place I'll have access to it, but if it is on Paizo in a format I can read, I always will. :)

My alternate Aasimat trait gives me DR 2/Evil

Correct. I am messing with new alignment rules that I love. Under these, I believe you would have DR 2/silver. But this is something I'm just trying out. :)

Zaigon, you have 32 HP's (10 + max first level + con), 32 Vigor, and 22 WP's. You stabilize 22% of the time, and have a massive damage of 22 (Take 22 damage in one hit and it may system shock you into dying.) You have a clobbered of 11. (11 damage in one hit, you lose your next action).

All non-lethal goes directly to vigor.

Alrighty Mittean, my alias has been updated with my stats as according to your house rules. Let me know how it is.

Awesome, Nathaniel! Thank you.

Alright, change your Defense score to 8. Your armor counts to DR, not to defense. And change the entry for the DR 2 to "DR 2/armor".

Looks like you rolled a six on your luck points. Where did you do that?

I don't see your attributes up there. Am I missing them?

Nice choice on your sin. A little wrath in your cereal, huh? Channel your inner Brad Pitt, and Nathaniel could be very creepy, lol.

Unfortunately, it looks like (reading between the lines) you have a Str 8 and a Bab of +0. So you do not currently qualify for power attack, and consequentially, cleave.

The other two feats look great. You qualify for them, but it also looks like you have an 8 Dex...which makes Combat reflexes obsolete. It doesn't provide you a benefit. Thoughts?

Which black sheep? Aliver or Titus?

I don't see Shadow diplomat. Where is that from?

Does your character worship Saranrae?

I don't see the Eidolon's abilities either.

List the Eidolon seperately, and then fused, if you would. :)

Type out the flaws (especially slow healing). Those are awesome choices!

Abraham Your HP should be 32, as well as vigor. Your WP are 22, with a threshold of 11.

Also, you have 5 hero points, 1 destiny point, 5 action points, and 4+1d6 luck points.

Go ahead and change the DR listing to DR 5/armor.

Critical defense you can list as 15.

On melee, put "or" instead of "and" after your glaive attack.

Where did you get student of faith from?

Just waiting on Mark in the pbp.

Your characters are starting to come together. Lets look at binding them together with relationships, etc.. I'll leave that up to you all do discuss here.

Abraham Your HP should be 32, as well as vigor. Your WP are 22, with a threshold of 11.

Also, you have 5 hero points, 1 destiny point, 5 action points, and 4+1d6 luck points.

Go ahead and change the DR listing to DR 5/armor.

Critical defense you can list as 15.

On melee, put "or" instead of "and" after your glaive attack.

Where did you get student of faith from?

I'm not sure where your numbers are coming from. Wound points equals twice your CON which is 28, and Wound Threshold is 14 or your CON. Vigor Points are your normal HD but don't add in CON modifier. D8 at first level should give me 8 vigor points. I don't think HP exist with this varient, but if so they would be 10 (Max at level 1 + CON modifier).

I'll add the misc. Points to the profile 1d6 + 4 ⇒ (2) + 4 = 6 Luck Points.

The armor DR is already listed just below the Aasimar Damage reduction.

Where is the Critical Defense you mentioned, and how is it used?

And changed to or.

Student of Faith is From Rise of the Runelords Campaign Trait...New hardcover version.

Sorry, Abraham, I do mine a little different. :) Your WP should be max con + max HP 1st level. Your vigor should be 10 more, as well as your HP.

6 luck points! nice!

I'll go look up the trait, I have the book. :)

You have a critical defense listed. I figure we should have it as an AC number (15), rather than a +5 number.

*coughs*
You'll find that just a little bit below my stats are the stats for my fused form. In that form I have a strength of 16, BAB of 1 and dex of 12, so I qualify for all my feats.

Picked up one of my dice and rolled it. Probably should have done it in-forum, apologies, would you like me to re-roll?

Haven't decided on what Black Sheep, i'll look into it.

Shadow Diplomat is a Pathfinder Society trait- makes diplomacy a class skill etc. On reflection, probably doesn't apply if we haven't ever been pathfinders- or have we? Should I change it?

The description for the 'Blade of Mercy' trait actually says nothing about worshipping Sarenrae or anyone else; do I need to worship to choose it?

Flaws will be typed out, and attributes added; must have missed them from the char sheet.

Sorry to hold you up - I'll be. Omplete today. I can afford a two-handed sword and hide armour plus some other interesting items.

Corvus, looks like your Vigor would be 36. Same with your HP. Your WP are 26.

You are able to pick two flaws, and select two more feats, if you'd like.

Put your saving throws under your defense section. Also, remember your birthmark saves. List those, please.

Make a section at the bottom for Corvus's stats while she is raging, if you would.

Maximum gold for a barbarian at first level.

Where is scholar of the ancients?

Skills look great. :)

Did you do the human extra skill point? Or the barbarian favored class option, hp's or sp's?

I think you have the damage for the greatsword and the power attack backwards.

I love your tie in with Desna and your birthmark. :)

Corvus, I think your speed should be 40 ft. with Barbarian fast movement. Hide doesn't slow you and you are not encumbered.

Add DR 4/armor below your defense score.

Add in your Destiny points, Hero points, action points and luck points (don't forget to roll 1d6 on those.)

Alright, Corvus is 90% done. The little details we can iron out as we go.

Nathaniel I'm actually calculating your point buy for attributes at 24 out of 25. Did I misscount?

Your HP should be 26, as well as Vigor. Your WP are 16. Stabilize 16%, Massive damage 16. Your clobbered is 8.

I think you have adaptability through being a half-elf, correct? That would give you a skill focus feat.

Your bluff and diplomacy should be +6. Perception should be +5 (with keen senses). They are not summoner class skills.

Use magic device should be +7.

List what your two favored classes are under class abilities, please, and what their focus (HP, SP, etc) are.

Hey-

Adaptability was spent on getting the Ancestral Arms ability, which got me proficiency in my Falchion.

Bluff and Diplomacy are made class skills by my trait choices.

First favoured class was listed at the top as in your demon example, will do the same for the second class.

Thanks for helping point out where i'd gone wrong with my skill calculations.

Ill look into my attributes.

Ah, that works, then! Thanks.

I now see the bluff and diplomacy ones. Sorry I missed that.

That works for the favoured class, thank you. :)

Let me know which attribute you kick up. :) Also, don't forget the Perception listed under senses...I always do. :)

And you are fine on your luck point roll, btw. :)

Your FF with the Eidilon should be 10.

List ancestral arms.

I'm not sure how many Eidilon HP you rolled. should be 1d10+1. Go ahead and make those max, since it is first level. So 11. Your character will be unique, in that he should have, while fused HP 37, Vigor 26 WP 16 (With Massive damage 16, stabilize 16% and clobbered 8).

You have two natural attack claws listed after your falchion atttack. You would be unable to use those, as you are holding a falchion. Go ahead and list them as an "or" option.

Your evolution pool is 3. You have 4.25 spent. Let me know what you drop.

I'm assuming your eidolon is a biped to be over the top of you. Could you list that?

I don't see your adjusted saving throws on there, either. Fort and Will good, Reflex poor, I believe.

List your free evolutions from your form.

With reach, if you keep it, list what attack that is for.

Corvus, Abraham and Zaigan, please see my house rules and choose yourself a sin and one sin related power. :)

I haven't rolled HP- took the half-hit-dice that all monster get. 5.5hp.

I'm updating now. I 'cleverly' relied on an Excel based character generator and chose Campaign Traits from that - hence 'Scholar of the Ancients' which, upon digging, does not appear to be a campaign trait at all.

Also:
-Am following your directions for HP, keep in mind that part of that is temporary HP which cannot be healed normally once lost.
-I can have my claws on my feet and use them as secondary natural attacks with a -5 penalty.
-I chose the 'Extra Evolution' feat and I get 0.25 from my favoured class bonus.
-Eidolon is a biped, listed that now.
-Saving throws are not changed by the eidolon's saving throws, only by the change in ability scores.

I'm sorry but after reading all the house rules, I'm going to have to drop out as well. HeroLab lets me track the standard Pathfinder version of a lot of these options, but even these options have changed. It's just too much for me to absorb all at once.

In addition I am vehemently opposed to bonus XP for posting. I work a lot, and online RP is my escape. I shouldn't be punished because I have a particularly busy week. Quality not quantity for me.

Sorry it took me so long to post this...should have read all the House rules before continuing...shame...I really want to play this AP.

On a side note...the game is starting to look suspiciously like 4th edition, which I tried, but wasn't my cup of tea. I would embrace the opportunity to try out all these rules in a real life game, and am thinking about some myself, but in PbP I feel all these additional options, and things to track would slow down an already slow form of gaming.

Again I apologize for waiting so long to post this, and I wish you all the best of luck. Hit a few bad guys for Abraham.

Sorry to lose you, Abraham.

I totally missed the extra evolution feat, lol. Sorry, Nathaniel.

Corvus, your power attack is showing up at +10.

Alright, it's been a busy week for me. Sorry I've been M.I.A.

I was just hired to produce another film, so I will be heading down to L.A. in the next few weeks to assist in casting, and that will take up a little of my time. I'll keep you posted.

So we currently have Nathaniel, Corvus and Zaigan. We've had some attrition, but the characters are 90% there, and I think we can start, if you three are still interested. I'll give it a good 48 hours to see if you guys want to. I'd prefer to do this with at least three, so hopefully I hear back from you. If not...c'est la vie.

Still up for it. Appreciate the house rules may take some time to be automatic but keen to learn as I go. Also keen to start the role-playing.

Pumped for it. Let's go.

Im sorry, but Im going to have to drop. The alternate rules are to much for me to try to wrap my head around

I'm sorry to hear that, Zaigan.

Kids these days... tsk tsk.

Lol. Riiight.

Alright...that leaves two of you. I'd prefer to run this with at least three...what are your thoughts, guys?

I'd say get at least one more then one? Though I suppose I wouldn't mind doing it as a two-man thing.

Bags not being the sidekick.

Agree that a third person is a help. Depending on who wants to join, I would consider a different character if it would make things work as a group.