You got it wrong.
Moon radishes are an ancient elven...medicine.
They help men to...er....stand up to their duty, for the whole time the moon is visible.
Many a lord who was too soft in the bedchambers paid a large price to secure these.
Svetlana the Mail order Bride simply wants to help Oleg to relax. And, you know, have a good time. Every time. Thats worth a lot of disposable income, even if that cash was set aside for a new wagon with horses to transport goods.
Sometimes you just gotta have priorities.
Sorry for the delay, I'd hit a bit of snag Sunday night (food poisoning) which led to another snag Monday (ICU). I'm much better now after nearly suffering terminal dehydration. I'mean scheduled to go home in the next day or two which might limit my ability to edit maps as I'll just have my phone to do it on.
oh my... sorry to hear you've been under the weather... seriously so, in fact. Glad to hear you are on the mend though... take care and get better... we'll manage without maps until you are home... and if you don't feel up to posting til then, that's fine too. Just get better enough to get out of that hospital!
Whoops *sheepish grin* um, map updated. And thanks.
Dude.. trips to hospital equals we waitctil your fine again... I know your dedicated but we can wait.
Take your time, please.
RPGGGM - can you please spoiler the info that shows in the campaign thread to reduce the space it takes there? (the stuff that starts with 'Enter the Stolen Lands...').. thanks
And here I thought it helped you pick out our game amid all the others on your campaign page. ;)
thanks for the spoiler! and your game is always unique.. never have a problem 'picking it out of the pack' ... thanks for the spoiler!
Without some time and research materials on hand you are not even allowed to attempt checks for DCs higher than 10.
Untrained: You cannot make an untrained Knowledge check with a DC higher than 10. If you have access to an extensive library that covers a specific skill, this limit is removed. The time to make checks using a library, however, increases to 1d4 hours. Particularly complete libraries might even grant a bonus on Knowledge checks in the fields that they cover.
The boards have been down for many regions, and only on mobile for others. It should be resolved now.
Didn't know if anyone else had this but I was unable to get on the boards all last night and up until about half an hour ago.
Same here.
yep just back up now
Seems to be down again via computer, only working thru phone. Sigh
Aye, spotty paizo page beginning of week. And ill now. High fever, bedrest, antibiotics, all that fun stuff.
I will check back in on paizo when pain killers kick in, but posting may be spotty for a few days.
Get well soon.
@RPGGGM: Thanks-
Hej. Feeling fine again. Got worse before it got better.
Plus, once I was feeling a bit less ill, I had the bright idea of working on updating my computer system while I was home anyway, which caused some further problems with being able to go online.
Either way, I'm back now and will catch up with all my games plus post today(within about 12 hours). Apologies for going missing. I did update some of my games when I originally fell ill, but not all - assuming I could post somewhat normally for those not moving at too fast a pace.
Scarlet is definitely the kind of person who wants to help, and she's extremely gullible. She hates getting lied to. She can't just leave someone lost in a strange world in the middle of nowhere.
But we are on a mission to bring Mikmek (I will never spell his name right) and who knows what will happen there?
Scarlet is in favor of bringing both along until we reach the Kobold's home and get those moonradishes.
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Sorry, I wasn't really around this weekend for the... "vote."
Numalar has a distrust of Fay too, though as part Fay maybe less than others.
But he would see that situation as a pickle. On the one hand, a lone and vulnerable (looking, anyway) woman is asking for help. On the other hand, being Fay who knows what her motivations are or what she can do about them. Even a good-willed Fay can be a problem.
So Numalar would grudgingly allow her to come along, though he would try to keep an eye on her and try not to offend her.
Just a heads up, I haven't heard from Posh since the end of May, and after a quick look about Overfiend_87's Alias page found that Posh was probably his last active character. I hope that whatever he is going through turns out for the best and that he can somehow feel good vibes I'm sending his way even if he never reads this, but I think at least for now we've lost him.
I'm putting his chair to the side for now though when I took over the game I did make it clear to everyone playing up to that point and since (Bella, Valeska, Fronar, and Cyrielle) that they were all welcome to return either as occasional guest stars or full-on party members. I have no problem letting a super huge party of characters split up to explore, and tackle the challenges of the Stolen Land coming together in a sort of grand ruling council every once and a while and then splitting off again.
For now though I do want to fill that sixth spot before your final confrontation with the Stag Lord (the second to last major encounter site in this book can be tough as well).
Thoughts?
In April he did say that he was going through a lot of stuff, not all of which he felt comfortable sharing.
As such, yes, end of May to end of July is 2 months, which is quite a while. It remains to hope that he only is on a hiatus, and eventually returns, but realistically speaking, I'm afraid my thoughts as a player mirror your own analysis.
That is, that we'll need to fill that spot, for now, and see if he comes back later.
I do have someone reliable and active in mind that I would ask if that is fine with you.
Regardless of that, with the amount of bandits in these lands, it would probably be easy to run into a rogue-ish type. Which also is a niche we have not covered - (and that does not conflict with Posh if he comes back).
Thats my thoughts.
I do hope Posh does better- I was thinking about the last time I heard from Posh and was going to bring it up next week. I hope he's doing alright.
I have a few potential friends who may want to play, but IIRC Alia's friend wanted to join a while ago, so that person gets dibs.
A cleric would go a long way towards helping us keep healthy out in the wilderness without burning supply.
Sounds more than fair. Yes we should replace him for now.. a Cleric or Bard would be useful.
I do have someone reliable and active in mind that I would ask if that is fine with you.
Regardless of that, with the amount of bandits in these lands, it would probably be easy to run into a rogue-ish type. Which also is a niche we have not covered - (and that does not conflict with Posh if he comes back).
Thats my thoughts.
Wow, that's a lot of dead Kingmaker games on their campaign page.
I see you're in one of them... Two-timer.
Thinking on it, I'm not sure I should let them in considering what obvious bad luck they are. ;)
As far as classes go more healing would be nice, but I think one of any basic Core or Advanced Players Guide class we don't have (including a bard--they come in enough flavors that the whole party could be bards and you would still be able to tell them apart). I could easily see a bard, witch, druid, inquisitor, ranger, paladin, cleric (all of whom get healing), fighter, cavalier, rogue, or some multi-class of the above fitting in nicely. We're probably good on straight up arcane.
Hm...@Cleric: Technically Celyne gets more spells per day than a Cleric and knows the same healing spells by default.
No matter if I can ask Lessah or not, I would not want our new person to feel forced into feeling like Aidus Bandus the walking Medikit.
Channel Energy is awesome to have, but other than that the amount of new toys Cleric gets is rather boring over their career as a whole.
So basically I'm throwing the question out there (at GM) if Shaman/Warpriest would be acceptable(because it was "only base classes/races" after RPGGGM took over, except for Scarlet who is a Hybrid Class Featured Race *smile*), or alternatively, a Hospitaler Paladin(question for the others there - having a Paladin around does change a few things regarding moral flexibility.)
I would not pick up a Bard, on the chance that Posh comes back and simply does have a hard time in his life right now. If he took a hiatus for a reason and wants to be here again, having 2 bards would be bad(unless we take a debuff bard, in which case having 2 bards in a large group would be gamey).
@Two-timer: That was supposed to be a complete homebrew GM-king run Worldwound #2 thingie starting at level 7 with auto-cohort for each player and running to Level 20/Mythic 10...I would say I was not surprised to see it fold, but that GM specifically opened that game to take in his co-players after he was in basically that exact same game and saw it fold - so he knew what he was up for. Anyway, not anywhere near regular kingmaker, so I did not feel as if I was cheating on you ;)
Also, I only got in 33 posts total(22 main, 11 cohort) after joining(belated) before it folded.
@Dead Games: See it that way instead - player is really dedicated to playing this AP, just needs a proper game that sees it through.
Yeah! Scarlet's breaking all da rules!
The class doesn't really matter to me, although arcane would be very redundant. That's about my only comment here.
Hm...@Cleric: Technically Celyne gets more spells per day than a Cleric and knows the same healing spells by default.
No matter if I can ask Lessah or not, I would not want our new person to feel forced into feeling like Aidus Bandus the walking Medikit.
Channel Energy is awesome to have, but other than that the amount of new toys Cleric gets is rather boring over their career as a whole.
"♪♫ Depends upon their gah-od. ♪♫"
Yeah! Scarlet's
Yes, I recall a lot of personal eye rolling and sighing at that and deific obediences, and such. You kids and your new-fangled whatchmacallits. You know what this party needs? A shirren hydrokineticist. You can't have too many of those in a party.
Hehe, Clerics can be fun to play, definitely. Just saying mechanically they are one of the more bland classes except archetypes and special cases.
shirren hydrokineticist?
Damn. I wanted a Kender Vampire Master Summoner/Antipaladin picking up Dragon Disciple and Elemental Savant from Tome of Magic(that's 3.5 but it's ok right?)
Joke aside, may I make the inquiry? I could interpret the vague hints but I'd prefer a answer that leaves less doubt-
I almost made an inquisitor sanctified slayer archer for this game... woulda done nicely.. buut ranger boy is pretty interesting to play. Inquisitors have suprisingly large amounts of healing spells if they take them in their few slots.
Joke aside, may I make the inquiry? ....
Is that the inquiry? Regardless, you are not limited to one.
I'm okay with asking someone new into the group, class is not an issue for me, but I agree that bard, if Posh returns, might be redundant.
Aetherkineticist or Pyrokineticist would be scarier.. they get to fly.
Oh that inquiry. I thought you had a question. Give me a day or two to research first. At first glance their primary character seems to be a lot like Alia.
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It also seems to me that for the last while when Posh was around, he was a bit off his game. He tended to run out of ideas as to what his character could do.
A bard with inspire courage has a general party buff that is good all around. Though if we got a bard I'd prefer one with more knowledge or combat ability (or a bit of both). Posh's build was so weighted towards spells that I think this was part of why he was flummoxed when he would run out.
There are a number of bard archetypes that trade away inspire courage for something that only affects the bard himself. I'd rather not see one of those. It allows the bard to be more of a frontliner but counting Luna we have four who can do that. I don't personally get much out of inspire courage but I can see how it is really good for the party.
Actually what would be pretty cool in my book would be a Paladin 2/Bard 1 who used an Aldori Dueling Sword. Or something similar. We don't have an Aldori sword-wielder in the party.
If we don't get a bard we could use a spellcaster from another class who can lay down party buffs. None of us existing casters are much good at that. Clerics can do that fairly well. Isn't there a cleric archetype that trades something out for a bardic performance-type of ability? That would be great.
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I have no problem with soliciting characters from friends on the boards though I do think that we should get a few submissions rather than just acclaiming someone.
Of my forum games this one is the one I have been in the longest by far. So there aren't too many people I would be likely to tap, though there are a few in a game I am running that might be interested. The game has been going for a year and a half and there are four people who have been there from the start.
Do feel free to research. I suggested the player because I really like their RP. I'm specifically aquainted with Ophelia Springs(where I am a player, she is in the game since 3 years and only remaining original cast member) and Miranda Greenblossom(where I am GM, game started a bit over a year ago).
Posh seemed to be a bit off, but he never was out of options, he simply did not consider them. E.g. he picked up the Antagonize Feat but I think he only used it once after I suggested it.
The problem was, I think, not so much with the build itself as with him getting distracted repeatedly and getting botted.
Regardless, I don't want another bard. If Posh comes back, having double inspire courage is not fun.
And even if he remains missing, despite so many fun archetypes for Bard, we have more than enough people to specialize, rather than pick up meddlers-in-everything, masters-in-none.
Personally I would prefer either a divine healer type that has healing as a extra(would prefer a Hospitaler(/possibly also Tempered Champion) Paladin) or a skill/trap monkey (translate: Unchained Rogue with any of a number of interesting archetypes not trading away trapfinding).
Of course, a working hybrid could be UC Rogue 1/Inquisitor X providing both(though lack of channel means we won't be much more efficient with healing).
I would not pick a duplicate class(a second oracle might be efficient, but...meh), nor another arcane class(we got a full, middle and low arcane caster as-is.).
If it was in/allowed, a Shaman would be a great option...the spell list is a bit limited, but otherwise plenty of interesting mechanics(plus channel available).
I hoped to get GM/group approval and be able to straight-out ask, but I suppose it's only fair to give your friends a chance as well if you vouch for them.
Disclaimer: I did inform Lessah - not so much because I misread RPGGGM's answer(which I totally did(I interpreted it as go ahead and make inquiry, not limited to the one about making it), then went to bed - but I was not 100% certain), but also to figure out if they are even interested in joining. Because if no, then no research on GM behalf is even needed, and if yes, they can still use the time to consider a concept.
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I hoped to get GM/group approval and be able to straight-out ask, but I suppose it's only fair to give your friends a chance as well if you vouch for them.
Scarlet mentioned she had friends who were interested as well.
As I said before, I'd rather see a slate of candidates than just acclaim one.
I don't think it's reasonable to eliminate types of candidates because we don't want duplication in case Posh comes back. He's been gone two months, and may never turn up. Even if he does... there are all kinds of different bardic performances but the only one I ever see used is inspire courage. Having a second bard means the second one could use a different type of performance without sacrificing the inspire courage performance. That, and when you consider that bards are spontaneous casters, two bog-standard bards can end up being very different characters.
I am completely fine with bringing in people directly over running a limited recruitment. It allows a more involved and group-focused design process, over making a generic application. But that's probably a matter of taste - in the past years, I've seen replacements done in that way multiple times and had no bad experiences so far, while I saw people from re-recruitments go missing again.
Also, you misunderstood. I said, even if Posh remains missing, I am not fond of picking up a Bard. We have plenty of Arcane Power, and Bards by definition are jacks-of-all-trades(they even have a class ability named so).
They are cover-alls for buffing, healing, skill monkeying etc but don't shine brightly in any one field...don't get me wrong, I like the class, but not when we have 6 people and can have specialized members.
We got a full arcane caster and a full divine caster with Animal Companion. We got a low caster Martial Melee, and a Full Martial Ranged. I'm already a partial caster Switch Hitter, and I simply see more potential for either a Trapskillmonkey(which we don't have) or a dedicated Melee(or Ranged)-Healer(which we don't have) over a second partial arcane caster that adds some buffing and will eventually begin to suffer in one or more departments due to a need to focus on one aspect to keep it competitive.
I know Bard CAN cover Traps moderately well via archetype(same for healing), but I would prefer a non-arcane and more specialised option regardless with 3 arcane casters in the group already.
I don't want to dig too deep into classes. That's something I would like the player to purpose first. It's no use squeezing a swashbuckler into a cleric's cassock. They just won't stay.
In general though I think we are looking for a character who can pull off two or more of the following: more skills, more healing, more support, more divine, and/or something with Kingmaker flavor (like an expert duelist, reformed brigand, or yes--a traveling bard).
If/when Posh returns, we can cross that bridge when we get to it..
I'm guessing Lessah has yet to reply. Just let them know that if they are interested we're interested in finding a replacement player, but that we are still considering.
Did anyone else have anyone they would like to suggest?
Did we perhaps want to cast a wider net by re-opening the Recruitment thread?
No, Lessah did reply and expressed interest in joining a Kingmaker group that would not implode. Wanted to sleep over it though before saying anything more. I suppose it's only fair to give them a chance to do their research as well so they can make an informed decision on what they are getting into, see if the game is a shoe that fits.
Also, I don't care how we end up handling fetching a replacement, Lessah is my champion and I will name no others to fill this vacancy.
No matter if invitation-only or public, I would need to pretend to be unbiased, but luckily, thats not necessary with the terrible power of decision-making resting with RPGGGM anyway.
That said(and I shouldn't need to say this but I want to anyway because internet can make things less clear by courtesy of text only communication): of course I'll respect any decision made and not act unwelcoming towards a new player who is not Lessah(if so).
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Also, you misunderstood. I said, even if Posh remains missing, I am not fond of picking up a Bard....
Hmmm... I see.
I'm not married to the idea of a bard, though I think you are dismissing them too quickly.
The spell list of a bard is quite different from other arcane casters, to the point that I think it is unfair to say "we don't need another arcane."
Bards also are the masters of knowledge checks and we could use some help in that regard.
If we didn't get a bard I would like someone capable of laying down party-wide buffs. The bardic performance is the only thing we have in that regard right now. Maybe Celyne plans on getting some, but she doesn't really have any yet except weapons against evil which is pretty specific.
Personally, I don't want to push someone into building a dedicated trap finder. Zokon: a while back you suggested you would be getting some trapfinding ability. Is that still a possibility?
I have 1 person I could ask.. long running reliable GM..
Trapfinding
Yes after my fighter levels now.. unless I delay it further and take slayer 4 and then use that talent to get ->
Trapfinding Talent
Gain Disable Device as a class skill; gain trapfinding and trap sense as a rogue
Oh, I don't dismiss the bard easily. As said, it's a highly versatile class, which in my opinion is it's shortcoming when surrounded by highly specialized others.
I would much prefer a Witch over a bard right now, which also has a significantly different spell list(including healing), but is SAD and more focused.(and would add versatility to higher-level spells which we do not have covered)
@Knowledge help: Could also be easily handled by a Sage Familiar(say, that of the witch, for example). Unfortunately my Archetype prevents me from aquiring one, and I believe Vega would be a Mauler, not a Sage, anyway.
@dedicated trap finder: It's less about pure trapmonkey, more about the fact that we lack roguish talents overall...sleight of hand and the likes included. Plus Debilitating Injury does a pretty good job at debuffing enemies as well. Proper trap monkeying(and not forcing Zokon to put it up) is simply an extra. I am simply used to refer to that category of character as such and would prefer they don't trade the ability away.
A bard has it's merits, but thats not the issue. The point is that there are different roles it cannot fill properly(because specialization) that I would much rather see filled.
I would like to see a more specialist character join, not a generalist. A simple matter of taste and personal opinion.
Did we perhaps want to cast a wider net by re-opening the Recruitment thread?We could do an "invitation only" recruitment, if people want to go that way.
I could see that if we get more than two possible recruits.
On a side note today was really busy for me so I haven't done much research.
I do have someone reliable and active in mind that I would ask if that is fine with you.
Okay, Alia's reliable and active friend, seems reliable and active. Although all the characters I've been following are either magus-like (read: Alia-like, you rip-off artist you), or the ever-hated bard! (You really don't want this person to join at all do you? ;))
I haven't had a chance to research Zokon's GM friend, except from the prospective of being a player in a game of his a while back. I'll try to look this weekend.
Numalar also has a couple of friends who might like to join as well, but I don't have anything much on them beyond that.
So that makes 4. At this point I'm thinking that Numalar's Closed Recruitment thread might be the way to go.
Also if anyone asks Character creation looks like this right now:
In general I think we are looking for a character who can pull off two or more of the following: more (roguish) skills, more healing, more support, more divine casting, and/or something with Kingmaker flavor.
I can (apparently) be sold on anything anyone wants to play so long as it makes some sort of in-world sense. Please try really, really hard to avoid hardback books beyond the Core book, Advance Player's Guide, Advanced Race Guide (try to keep it to Core book races please), Ultimate Combat, Ultimate Campaign, and Ultimate Magic. I'm not incredibly happy about Advanced Class Guide but hey, Zokon and Scarlet.
It'd be starting gold for level as indicated in the Core Rules. Thirty point build, background skill points, rounded up average or better hp (rolled on the thread), and (spoiler for you guys) probably 4th level, by the time we get this figured out.
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BTW, Loot:
We have Posh's old small light crossbow on the sell pile (since he now has a masterwork one). Since Numalar gave his to Mikmek I will claim that one. Any chance I can "borrow" half of the bolts Posh has (he originally bought 20). Posh bought that stuff in Restov I think, but never actually added it to his character sheet in the gear section.
Also realized I didn't deduct money for the holy weapon balm from Naleksa. Fixing that now.
While I am on the subject of Loot I might as well update a few things.
Here's a list of Consumable items that you should have.
Please let me know if you have used any of this stuff up.
Zokon:
six +1 animal bane arrows
potion of reduce person
Oil of magic weapon
(BTW since you now have a magic weapon you could offer the Oil to Scarlet)
Alia:
scroll of shield
Oil of bless weapon
wand of detect magic (10 charges)
scroll of invisibility
jar with gelatinous serving
Scarlet:
potion of cure serious wounds
Flask of Holy Water
Flask of Alchemist's Fire
Potion Shield of Faith x 2
potion of cure moderate wounds
Oil of bless weapon
wand of enlarge person (2 charges)
potion of enlarge person
Celyne:
How many charges are left on the wand of CLW?
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Currently the value of all the consumable stuff I have listed (including Numalar's stuff but not the wand of CLW) is 3570 gp.
Between the bank, cash, and sellable stuff we have 2670.47 gp.
Actual permanent treasure characters have:
Celyne: 482
Numalar: 403
Posh: 913
Zokon: 3909 (he has the +1 rapier which is more than half of this)
Alia: 1684
Scarlet: 1803
We also have another fully charged wand of CLW on the way (from the bank): 750 gp
Total wealth: 16184.47 ... /6 = 2697.41 average wealth (including consumables).
Note this does not include stuff that you started with or things like ordinary arrows and rations that we bought.