Kingmaker: Conquest of the Stolen Lands (Inactive)

Game Master Aqua-Thor

I plan on writing up a letter of recommendation or two while at work today, and submitting an app this evening, then jumping into the gameplay thread.

What are your feelings on the Middle Aged Gnome, Age Penalties, Bleachling (Page 27), and Breadth of Experience??

I had been interested in being 120, with middle aged at 100, Old at 150, and essentially normalizing the stat buy so that everything ends up the same, buying off the dex penalty to still have an 18. (+2 enhancement bonus from Aegis ~> 20)

Additonaly, what are your feelings on Butterfly Sting > Wasp Sting (Desna > Calistria)?

I still need to go over my alias, and confirm that it still meets your guidelines, I suspect it does, other than gear, which I will adjust downward after selection if needed. I will also need to adjust for Bleachling as needed.

Also, as previously inquired, I prefer to keep up on quickly moving games while at work, but am unable to post while there. Do you foresee a content problem if I try and read on a work machine? There was a brief discussion on spoilers and brothels ... I'd prefer that things remain safe for work, or heavily spoilered. Is this something that seems reasonable?

According to lore... how do the kobolds and drow view each other?

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I'm building up the character and I was wondering about the languages, What is the official language of Brevoy? Hallit, Skald or Taldane?

Also, will the different human languages have any kind of role, even minimal or am I wasting my options?

also... when a bard gains a new versatile performance do you allow to redistribute the points spent in skills covered by it?

I plan on writing up a letter of recommendation or two while at work today, and submitting an app this evening, then jumping into the gameplay thread.

What are your feelings on the Middle Aged Gnome, Age Penalties, Bleachling (Page 27), and Breadth of Experience??
I had been interested in being 120, with middle aged at 100, Old at 150, and essentially normalizing the stat buy so that everything ends up the same, buying off the dex penalty to still have an 18. (+2 enhancement bonus from Aegis ~> 20)

Middle age, no problem. Breadth of Experience, no problem. Bleachling – immortality and speak with animals at will . . . give me a feat, then no problem.

Additonaly, what are your feelings on Butterfly Sting > Wasp Sting (Desna > Calistria)?

I’m not sure what you mean here . . .

I still need to go over my alias, and confirm that it still meets your guidelines, I suspect it does, other than gear, which I will adjust downward after selection if needed. I will also need to adjust for Bleachling as needed.

Also, as previously inquired, I prefer to keep up on quickly moving games while at work, but am unable to post while there. Do you foresee a content problem if I try and read on a work machine? There was a brief discussion on spoilers and brothels ... I'd prefer that things remain safe for work, or heavily spoilered. Is this something that seems reasonable?

I don’t see this game as going hard R. You should be able to read at work.

According to lore... how do the kobolds and drow view each other?

It is almost exclusively a slave/master relationship. And Kobolds are fodder, worth less than animals.

I think what is meant is that the official rule on Butterfly's Sting requires the user to worship Desna. Wasp's Sting would be a renaming of the same feat to fit with the deity Calistria.

Just venturing a thought.

According to lore... how do the kobolds and drow view each other?

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they both live underground so about as much as every single other race that lives underground. :P if kobolds even really know about drow though, eh, that's another story. their tribes are pretty isolated from one another and they're only aware of things that are around their specific tribe.

Just checking... pranks can be fun =^^=

I get the feeling the normal Drow would consider Kobolds similar to Halfings. A servitor race that you need to keep applying the lash to, so they don't get any 'cunning' thoughts or tricky ideas. Barely worth the effort of keeping as a slave, but having their uses. Better then halflings really, as they don't smell as badly.

=P

Alas, with all the Real Adult Responsibilities (R.A.T.s) that have come up in my life lately, I'm not sure I'm going to have time to commit to another campaign.

Wish y'all the best, have fun, and remember - when the king grants you a forest, it's implied that he intends for you to keep it a forest. ;)

Hmmm, time for me to see who is in the tavern and personal notes for conversation or drawing attention. My own use, but anyone else can feel free to use to see if something would catch their character's eye.

Norvallen - Human male with long white hair that can be seen moving and grabbing things at odd times and wearing no armor. Also has a strange bird/lizard hybrid on the table, eating and watching with a seemingly too large head and a mouth full of teeth. Tiny thing though, so it doesn't look dangerous. Seems to be joking and talkative, possibly annoying, but a touch nervous.

Atamar Gorrin - Half-orc, tattoos visible on the arms slightly. Revealed he worships Desna, and mentioned to have a Butterfly tattoo (and another on his back). Said it so darn proudly that Norvallen can't even bring himself to make a joking comment on it.

ZartanaDrow of house Orlovsky. Stands out and the white hair drew Norvallen's attention revealing her to be willing to joke and talk.

Jonathan Haykes - Human mostly unassuming except for a few small scars outside of his mask. Pulled down his mask recently to take a drink, showing massive scarring and burns, yeouch. Norvallen is afraid to ask how he got those at the moment. Is wearing a uniform that Norvallen is on the tip of Norvallen's mind, but doesn't quite place yet.

Sorry - Not yet introduced.

Hatham McCreedy - (Human?) in an eclectic blend of furs, boots, belts, and traveling clothes that just seemed to work. Also possibly muddy still in a few places.

Cassandra Lupin - Another human with white hair! Norvallen no longer feels quite so alien anymore. Mentioned being a hunter, in conversation with a few people, and seems a touch nervous but as if Norvallen can't state he isn't as well.

Anghus - Halfling who keeps making comments in a language that Norvallen can't understand. Spirited and willing to joke/insult back and Norvallen is hopeful doesn't hold a grudge and actually stick his familiar with his sword.

Gaspar Khemet - Half-elf wearing Courtier clothing, jewelry, and seems to be dressed much better then the rest.

Jamahzin - Kobold wearing strangely what appears to be clothes of the local human custom sized and shaped for itself, with a water-proof-waxed cloak which it has drawn over its head, and appears to be wearing goggles with darkened lenses though taken off inside now.

Veil Silverthistle-Elven Bard who just played a song in the place. Seemed nicely done, if somber. Strangely a Dwarven one coming from an elf, if anyone figures it out (No luck for Norvallen there).

Tristan D'Arden - Human who went and spilled his troubles and woes to anyone who would listen. Mentions of a Master and running is curious. Slavery or possibly something that needs to be reported for one reason or another for a Lawful character?

Minakeh Deepiron - Human - Sports a short beard and mustache that stays well up-kept without any work. From just above his right eye to down below his right is a freshly healing scar. Blonde hair.

Alas, with all the Real Adult Responsibilities (R.A.T.s) that have come up in my life lately, I'm not sure I'm going to have time to commit to another campaign.

* Real Adult Things (R.A.T.s)

Go figure, that's what I get for trying to make clever acronyms when I'm not fully awake.

Anyway, cheers!

I like they way you took Master and went slavery?

He is page to a lord, the lord is a sword lord or a Master of Arms as they are not knights. So he would call him master, or teacher in training but My Lord in a formal setting. :)

In character, yeah. He didn't catch everything just right, heard "seeking refuge and safety from my Master" and well ... didn't quite pay attention to the part about him sending you here instead. Wording shocked him =P

Thank you for your response!

I wasn’t sure how much attention you were paying to questions other than your own in the prior thread, I apologize for not including sufficient detail.

The subject of Bleachling, was actually suggested by GM Archlichey! And was something I was considering, as it fit … somewhat, with the concept in mind. I do not expect the immortality portion to apply (due to where I’m reintroducing him agewise.), but I can definitely see where speak with animals at will could be extremely potent. I suspect I’m going to pass on the idea, as his personality is a bit too bubbly for the typical Bleachling, and I’d rather take Breadth of Experience.

Butterfly Sting is a religious feat, which requires worship of Desna. I would prefer to follow Calistria in her aspect of occasional Vengeance, so Master Kane is 100% correct. This is just requesting confirmation of a specific where you have indicated acceptance is likely in general (ReFluffing things).

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Re: butterfly's sting

Reflavor away! BUT . . . I have followed, though not participated in board discussions on this feat, and I fall squarely in the - you cannot grant the critical back to yourself - camp.

Almost 12am here. So good day/evening to all. Will check back in the morning

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Updated the profile with skills, spells and some other minor details.
Missing only Gear and traits now.

Added the recommendation letter, but I think I may make some slightly modifications to it.

Give ... back to yourself? That doesn't seem logical. I have zero objection to your decision.

note: Gear adjustments, and therefore a few skill mods may change, pending selection.

Went away for just a bit and bam 14 post or so. Have a live Only War game tonight so will try and post as we use roll20.

I am leaving town tomorrow for a conference on wednesday. Back wednesday night. I will be taking a work laptop so should be able to post tomorrow morning and night, but not while traveling, and not during conference on wednesday.

So because of that shameless plug for GM. I am a very active poster, currently in 12 games I think. I post lots. I'm in a Kingmaker game but we are still in book 1 after 2 years. GM has had some life issues so it has had long breaks. I am playing the ranger version of Tristan in that but would love to be in a more active game. Feel free to look at my games if I don't get to post enough here the next couple days. I would say I do 20-30 post a day as most games are 1-3 depending on how active others are.

Oh yeah. I've heard of people doing this. Either two weapon fight with a heavy pick and kukri so you can give kukri crits to your pick or take quick draw and use double kukris or a falchion to crit with the kukris/falchion, free action drop the weapon and free action draw a scythe to give yourself the crit. It's insanely cheesy.

The rules do say that you consider yourself an ally unless it doesn't make sense. Which basically just passes it into the DM's court. This is one of those times where I agree with the DM about such a ruling.

I love that feat, but that's just abuse. XD

Oh yeah. I've heard of people doing this. Either two weapon fight with a heavy pick and kukri so you can give kukri crits to your pick or take quick draw and use double kukris or a falchion to crit with the kukris/falchion, free action drop the weapon and free action draw a scythe to give yourself the crit. It's insanely cheesy.

The rules do say that you consider yourself an ally unless it doesn't make sense. Which basically just passes it into the DM's court. This is one of those times where I agree with the DM about such a ruling.

I love that feat, but that's just abuse. XD

Seriously? Maybe they should make it a teamwork feat instead that way they can't cheese it like that. I like to think up duo's rather than single characters and one was a pair of inquisitors. Dual kukri's and two-handed scythe.

Scaffold Kane wrote:

Oh yeah. I've heard of people doing this. Either two weapon fight with a heavy pick and kukri so you can give kukri crits to your pick or take quick draw and use double kukris or a falchion to crit with the kukris/falchion, free action drop the weapon and free action draw a scythe to give yourself the crit. It's insanely cheesy.

The rules do say that you consider yourself an ally unless it doesn't make sense. Which basically just passes it into the DM's court. This is one of those times where I agree with the DM about such a ruling.

I love that feat, but that's just abuse. XD

Seriously? Maybe they should make it a teamwork feat instead that way they can't cheese it like that. I like to think up duo's rather than single characters and one was a pair of inquisitors. Dual kukri's and two-handed scythe.

Yeah, that's why I like the feat. A friend and I made a couple of witch hunter siblings. I was a barbarian with a scythe and he was a witch hunter inquisitor with kukris. It was fun as all get out.

I have some partial crunch, a proto-background (it's the whole story but lacks detail on a "rival")

The big picture is fleshed out I think I'll start to engage in the gameplay thread to get a feel of her interactions with the other characters.

Woops, forgot to drop the update into my profile. Inserted a touch more background, and something to make the letter make more sense.

Heh, poor Jamahzkin being overwhelmed.

Things that stand out draw attention, get pounded, and make for a great hook. And a Kobold does stand out.

@ Veronica d'Ambrosia

Your alignment seems more of a lawful evil than a chaotic evil. as most "evil" characters in Game of Thrones are more lawful evil. the Mountain is neutral evil, otherwise he never would have become a knight. Ramsy would be the only one i would consider chaotic evil even then he still bows to authority. Raygar has been talked about as being chaotic evil... at the very end anyway... im not here to start an alignment war just stating what ive read and interpreted. She seems awesome though so i cant wait to see her in action!

I'm kinda undecided on whether to wait for a response in order to chronologically place my entrance or assume is in the order of the posts and weigh in on the current chaos.

@ Veronica d'Ambrosia

Your alignment seems more of a lawful evil than a chaotic evil. as most "evil" characters in Game of Thrones are more lawful evil. the Mountain is neutral evil, otherwise he never would have become a knight. Ramsy would be the only one i would consider chaotic evil even then he still bows to authority. Raygar has been talked about as being chaotic evil... at the very end anyway... im not here to start an alignment war just stating what ive read and interpreted. She seems awesome though so i cant wait to see her in action!

Well. Lawful usually presumes a certain set of values. A certain respect for traditions, for institutions, a certain respect for authority.

She has pretty much none of the above.
If anything she games the system to get what she wants, which, sure, is common among Lawful or neutral evil too, but paired with a criminal past, hedonist lifestyle and a cherished collection of smuggled texts and art pieces of Nocticula coming from the crusader road that I would like to add to her background I think she qualifies as Chaotic Evil.
She is pretty much a social predator on par of a succubus, minus demonic powers.

Heh, poor Jamahzkin being overwhelmed.

Things that stand out draw attention, get pounded, and make for a great hook. And a Kobold does stand out.

;-;

at least Cassandra kept me from getting all snippy.

my character's notes on people:
Cassandra - unusually sympathetic human
Norvallen - unusually polite human, relaxed, apparently his hair upsets him or something.
Minakeh - unusually friendly human, tempered in responses
Atamar - friendly human-something, or maybe just a different race of human, or maybe a race with the same relation to humans as elves or halflings.(I have no idea what orcs are) Friendly none the less.
Johnathan - Angry human, for some reason more angry at another human than at me, not sure what to make of this one.
Veil - Loud Elf, I think this is what human music generally sounds like, I liked the one about the dwarves being attacked by a dragon I heard while outside better though. Maybe later i'll ask him to sing it again.
everyone else - probably not a friend, but he's unsure now since talking to the people he wonders if all the "humans" here are as unusual.

Sorry for posting twice in the recruitment, we had a con weekend and I made the character in a hurry, and somehow forgot the first part of the post of the GM.

Coming to tavern soon.

Who here, that has spoken to Zartana, has met another Drow before? There is a cosmetic difference that needs to be mentioned if one has a reference for drow appearences =^^=

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@ Zartana, I haven't decided one way or the other, it's equally likely that he has, or hasn't actually met Drow. And for one not specifically tied TO them, that's probably a very high chance. I need to review and see what if any differences Drow standard vs Golarion there are.

@ D'ahia, it is unlikely that any of the tools Roonie is festooned with will be Masterwork at the beginning of the game, I haven't readjusted his gear. Need to shed 300 gp worth.

Norvallen has not met another Drow before. Part of the reason why he was so willing to try to start up a conversation when he started.

Though he did read up on them quite a bit, after a number of people kept mentioning his white hair and drow together. Along with studying undercommon to get a better picture of them as well.

As she said in the discussion, Iavas hasn't met any, but has heard of them.

Okay. First. I guess silver/white are farely the same. So wont need to retcon that

Those who have more knowledge on Drow... instead of pupiless eyes. She has cat-like pupils. But they remain slits.

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is it common for people to translate what they're saying into other real world languages when they speak a different in-game language? might do draconic as Japanese or something, maybe Russian.

Some people do. I dont. I simply put it in a spoiler and thats that

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do you find it takes up too much space or is distracting? or simply don't think the extra effort is worth it?

For some, its to have text and let a player see something is spoken and probably be something they may not understand. Others, its for fun using a language they know in reflection to their character.

On languages and their counterparts in this thread so far:
Halfling -> Irish
Elvish -> Finnish
Draconic -> ???

My choice:
Sylvan -> Esperanto

I have afrikaans as a language. Its my home language.
Maybe undercommon... or something

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Think i'll use Russian in proceeding posts.

I suppose you guessed it already, but I'm native finnish speaker. I'm fine using it as elven. Iavas is based on Tolkien's sindar, but Tolkien based the elven languages partly on finnish. Not that much as the name would be Syysperhonen or Syksyn Perhonen in finnish, there isn't any resemblance.

Holy crap 60 post while in bed, Guess a lot of you are not eastern time zone :). As said leave for conference today at noon. Will try and catch up on GP now. Too bad this pace won't carry over to actual game. My fastest game by far is a Dragonlance one on here. We are at almost 1900 post in 3 months.

Alright no post toward Tristan. As stated leaving today and need to prepare some more for the conference. So no reason to engage in another conversation that I can't continue. Hope to still be considered for this. Bad timing on having to leave for work and all :)

Im on GMT+2. Also away this weekend... oh boy... a book to be read on monday :]

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Im on GMT+2. Also away this weekend... oh boy... a book to be read on monday :]

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No. GM said he is making selections tomorrow. Gameplay will die down a lot. Though the first few days are always pretty active.

yeah.. is pretty active.
I was waiting for the master to acknowledge veronica's presence before delving in but I starting to be afraid that my introduction will be buried by pages and pages... also I want to jump in :P

I think if I don't get the interaction with the noble by tonight I will start engaging with the others.

Im on GMT+2. Also away this weekend... oh boy... a book to be read on monday :]

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Yeah i could tell we were on opposite timezones, it's 6 AM here(-9 here), i got up at 4 AM and was like... welp guess i'll just check on my internet stuff before i go to work.

yeah.. is pretty active.

I was waiting for the master to acknowledge veronica's presence before delving in but I starting to be afraid that my introduction will be buried by pages and pages... also I want to jump in :P

I think if I don't get the interaction with the noble by tonight I will start engaging with the others.

he seems to post in spurts around midday here so in about... 6-8 hours or so.

GMT +2 and work allows me to write often. I had same thoughts as Veronica but decided that if I waited for GM I couldn't post a thing before Wednesday.

I'd say go ahead and jump in. The Noble's acknowledgement has been brief so far, so it should be safe to assume similar results in the past. Unless of course, you have some feature that would spook or scare his guards like a certain Kobold or Drow. =P Even then, its nothing too bad unless other people get in on it.

Just read over the GM's reponse later, to see how your character would have reacted to it. (And if you want, place a back-tracked response.).

No need to try to wait, especially when selections are based at least partially on the character and reactions in the thread.

Yeahhh whoah, 64 posts to read in gameplay when I wake up.

(US Eastern time here too)

Let's see if I can catch up.

I've still got to scale back gear and throw in some key details fluff wise( someone close, a rival, character/player goals)

So I'll get that together today