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Alrighty, my purchases are complete! They include:
Empty Orbit Emblem (like I said, installed as an armor mod)
Upgrading my STR Personal Upgrade to +4
A new Personal Upgrade for my Dex (+2)
Wide-spectrum Ocular Implants (now I can see in infrared and ultraviolet!)
5 more MK 1 Serums of Healing, as those saved my bacon in the fight with Xavra as much as Jellico's healing did.
And I have 47 creds left over.
I was just looking at my notes and noticed that I never issues Starfinder Society chronicles for Books 3 and 4. Are folks interested in SFS credit? If so, toss in the SFS number, name, and faction for each of those two chronicles.
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Arc. Seriously. How many battles are we going to repeat this. Bad guy attacks us. The rest of us do all the attacking while you waste turn after turn after turn doing diplomacy when the GM is doing everything to tell us that diplomacy is not going to work. It is okay to try this once in a while. But this is-- at least-- the third battle in a row you have done this. Please. It is getting... SO OLD. And then, you get mad at the rest of us for not standing there and voluntarily getting hammered. One decent roll in diplomacy is all you need to try. If you keep trying after getting no results, then to carry on is lunacy, and it isn't fair to the party.
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I DIDN'T roll decently, that's the problem! I got a natural one! I'm tired of the one skill I'm actually good at not making any difference in this campaign! I feel like a freaking failure! Is it just going to be fights to the death all the way down from here on out?! If so, I'd like to know in advance so I don't waste the party's time and not even bother trying to make friends!
Your first Diplo roll was a 19 on the die Arc. You've certainly gleaned some information from the Anhamut, but indeed diplomacy on its own is very difficult mid-combat.
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they have their place, but in my opinion, when they fail, they fail...
no, you know, it is wrong of me to out of character harass Arc for his actions. The reason I am annoyed is because he keeps on harassing Isu for attacking back when I am attacked. If Arcaline leaves Isu alone about defending himself and stops giving him orders to stand down and let himself get beaten, I will leave him alone about his diplomacy.
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Yeah, I may have been laying it on too thick, and I apologize for that. We are being attacked, we should defend ourselves...I just felt that someone's not going to listen to our request to stand down if we keep hitting them while we're doing that.
And like I said, I'm frustrated that my attempts, even if they're high rolls, don't seem to do anything: in a game where you're rewarded for bypassing fights through Diplomacy checks, having the fight happen anyway makes it seem like we failed the encounter. It freaks me out when games go "You didn't have to kill that guy, I'm so disappointed in you." Like, MAJOR anxiety, and with play-by-posts it's even worse since it's impossible to save-scum.
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I've liked the in-character back and forth between you two, but hate to see it causing OOC issues.
Personally, I think pulling a combat back to diplomacy is probably 1/100 event. I've seen it done, but usually under extraordinary circumstances. I certainly like the paladin-like fervor of Arc, but also appreciate Isu's point that, while being attacked, it's pretty hard not to want to defend yourself, and he shouldn't be called out for doing so.
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Well to bring this some resolution,
I pledge for stopping getting mad at Arc out of character,
if in character, he doesn't yell as Isu for defending himself.
I don't think Isu is a murder hobo. If diplomacy is an actual legitimate option, he won't attack. If he is actively getting attacked, he will attack back.
The game really isn't designed for diplomacy once in combat. Diplomacy can happen before combat breaks out, and if there really is a chance for diplomacy during battle, Cellion would have the enemy put up their hands and surrender. But players can't expect to control the GMs actions by getting a great roll on diplomacy during battle. That would tie the GMs hands and they don't put up with it. I know this because players try to do it to me and I'll not let them succeed.
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A reasonable pledge. I in turn pledge to not get mad at Isu, in character or out of character, for defending himself when my attempts at diplomacy don't succeed.
For what it's worth, I don't think Isu was murderhobo-ing at all. Like you said, you were defending yourself, not eagerly attempting to attack. And in the instance of Xavra, who we knew we were going to have to fight and I was trying to talk into a duel, you were 100% right: the duel was a suicidal idea and I was overconfident in my ability to engage a boss solo, and I'm sorry for over-reacting in that.
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Well before you get too upset, remember that Inevitables are outsiders, so I don't think we can really kill him. He will just be send back to whatever plane he came from.
Also, he was lawful neutral, not lawful good, and probably sent at us with the specific task of destroying us. So I guess the big question is who sent him at us and why. The plot thickens.
Although combat was by far the most straightforward way to repel the mad anhamut, other ways the book suggests the anhamut's attack could be resolved include:
Basically, very tricky.
Of course, Quillius is not dead right now. He simply discorporated back into component nanites. So who knows if he'll show up again...? :)
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But we still effectively failed the encounter because we took the most straightforward option and didn't think of or meet the requirements for the other solutions, right? That's how encounters like this work in my experience. You kill the NPC and then the GM or narrator if its a video game finger-wags at you and says "You didn't have to kill that person, I'm so disappointed in you." T_T
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1) Can't cast charm person.
2) Why would we even think to cast remove afflication...
3) Diplomacy-- the diplomacy was basically impossible. I guess the authors put it in as a show of "hey, you can do ANYTHING in our game" even though it wasn't really possible."
I agree with Sir Kent. Just because we picked one method doesn't mean we were wrong. Try to change your mindset from a computer game "beat the game" to the mindset of telling a story.
Yeah, the limited fire weapons are pretty tricky.
@Jelico: I can see them pretty well on desktop even if they're gray, so no worries about that.
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Cellion, I guess I was thinking that a tracking weapon like a nuke, that has a speed of 10 and a range 20 and perfect maneuverability, would be able to be fired from front even if the enemy ship wasn't in the front arc and home in on the desired arc of the target ship.
Reading through the rules, it doesn't really counter that idea, but doesn't directly support it either. I do know that missiles don't hit the round they are fired if they are more than their speed away from the enemy, and they have to keep making the TL to stay on track. I guess that is why I thought they could be fired and then find their way to the target. That first missile I fired, when we were so far from the target, probably needed to travel a couple of rounds (and have to hit the TL value each round) before it hit.
Isu, I don't think there's anything in the tracking weapon rules that contradicts the basic attacking rules for starships: "The attacking starship can fire a weapon against only ships in the same arc as that weapon". If you have a rule I've missed somewhere that lets you fire on ships not in the same arc as your weapon, I'd be glad to see it. It wouldn't surprise me if I've been running something in Starship Combat wrong.
As for the first missile you fired, I may have missed the distance you were firing from :)
As far as starship "fantasy" goes, I totally agree. There's so many examples of starships or mechs with missile batteries that fire initially in one direction only for missiles to change direction and head for their intended targets. See also Macross Missile Massacre.
But I get why Paizo went with requiring firing arcs to match up even for tracking weapons. The turret is super powerful/flexible already, and this allows all non-turret tracking weapons to count as turret weapons as well.
Maybe the right houserule balance would be to make TL higher than AC (so its harder to land missile attacks) in exchanger for missiles being more flexible to fire? Not sure.
Yep, only a few hours between the inevitable fight and the starship combat, so you'd have had a chance to 10-min rest, but won't have all resources back.
What a full attack from Isu!