Well, want me to step to the gargoyles and give Sorrin flank or intercept the whale?
I'd prefer if you intercepted the whale, it's the most dangerous foe. Astri can keep it busy for a while with a Mirror Image and some luck, but the odds of her surviving being attacked by the whale for more than 5 rounds isn't very good. She can move over to help Sorrin flank the gargoyles if needed, we'll see where the gargoyles move.
I'm going to be busy for most of the day.
Also, about the spear, most skeletons have damage resistance/bludgeoning. Of course, we're underwater so bludgeoning attacks will do half damage anyway... can't win!
Ok, I'll move to intercept the whale and you help sorrin with the gargoyles.
Forgetting the DR for a moment, is there any other penalty for slashing vs. piercing... other than the 1/2 damage for being under water?
Ptahh and others:
skeletons have DR/bludgeoning but you are underwater, so it will have the slashing/bludgeoning penalty (-2 att/half damage).
Does piercing, the spear that Chell wanted to hand to me, have the same penalties?
No
Does piercing, the spear that Chell wanted to hand to me, have the same penalties?
No penalties for attack or damage but DR applies because it is not a bludgeoning. Basically you're there a penalty regardless of how you act.
Fighting the skeleton whale underwater summary:
Use spear and DR 5/bludgeoning applies, but no attack penalty for underwater terrain.
use bludgeoning weapon then DR is bypassed but you suffer -2 att/half damage due to underwater terrain.
use slashing weapon then DR applies and you suffer -2 att/half damage due to underwater terrain.
Does piercing, the spear that Chell wanted to hand to me, have the same penalties?No penalties for attack or damage but DR applies because it is not a bludgeoning. Basically you're there a penalty regardless of how you act.
Against the skeleton.
Even that big, with than thick bone, huh...
Does piercing, the spear that Chell wanted to hand to me, have the same penalties?No penalties for attack or damage but DR applies because it is not a bludgeoning. Basically you're there a penalty regardless of how you act.
DR applies against the skeleton, for anything except bludgeoning.
Thanks... last question. What is the Spear that Chell was handing me? Magical properties?
Because I might be better off with my Earthbreaker against the skeletal whale.
DR 5 with spear vs. skeleton should be better than -2 to Hit and half damage with earthbreaker underwater?
Unless you got fancy earthbreaker specific abilities.
I only take a -1 to hit underwater due to a trait. And if I can only use 1 hand on the spear I lose a bit of damage bonus due to not using PA and other feats.
Also, I'm curious about what this spear is, so that if/when I use it, I can calculate damage properly. Unless, I totally missed something, I hadn't heard about any spear being found by the party. I'm assumming it was found prior to my arrival.
Longspear. Posted in gameplay. Twohanded.
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The longspear is two handed, it's masterwork only but it has a silver tip. She used her sift ability to find it.
Sift ability of Flotsam domain shows her to reach into the water and pull out a broken item worth 50gp x Level.
She did it as we entered the water and mended it. Snazzy.
Do the claw attacks suffer -2 to hit/half damage (slashing/bludgeoning)?
Do the claw attacks suffer -2 to hit/half damage (slashing/bludgeoning)?
What claw attacks? They were biting you.
I don't believe aquatic creatures using their natural attacks suffer from att/dam penalties since it's their natural environment. The PRD states:
Underwater Combat
Land-based creatures can have considerable difficulty when fighting in water. Water affects a creature's attack rolls, damage, and movement. In some cases a creature's opponents might get a bonus on attacks. The effects are summarized on Table: Combat Adjustments Underwater. They apply whenever a character is swimming, walking in chest-deep water, or walking along the bottom of a body of water.
Just like creatures with a swim speed don't need to make swim checks.
I haven't done an exhaustive search or reviewed the FAQ yet.
That's fine, figured they're claw soon enough. No federal case.
My youngest threw up all over himself and the backseat in the middle of the ride down to my parents yesterday.
Today, my other child threw up from the top of the stairs all the way to the bottom of the stairs.
Yep, really shaping up to be a great visit at my parents house.
Tomorrow I'm going to visit on my aunts that my mom isn't on speaking terms with.
My posting will be erratic until I get back home this weekend.
My youngest threw up all over himself and the backseat in the middle of the ride down to my parents yesterday.
Today, my other child threw up from the top of the stairs all the way to the bottom of the stairs.
Yep, really shaping up to be a great visit at my parents house.
Tomorrow I'm going to visit on my aunts that my mom isn't on speaking terms with.
My posting will be erratic until I get back home this weekend.
Good luck and stay healthy.
Ptahh, are you including the effect of Backswing?
Also, you have a spear now... But your versatility ability means you can turn a weapon in which you have Weapon Focus into a piercing weapon. I think.
Yes, backswing was included in the longspear rolls... but, I totally forgot about Weapon Versatility. Ptahh is the first character I've ever used that feat, and it hadn't come up yet. I should be able to use my falchion as a piercing weapon and avoid all of the penalties, I think.
If that is the case, my attack bonus on each attack would be +2 greater, and my damage would go from 1d8+16 to 2d4+18. I'll switch weapons next round.
I'll be visiting family until Monday, so my posting will be more sporadic. DMPC as needed, but I should still be able to post sufficiently.
I think Bri is still with family and limited on-line ability for the rest of the week.
Who needs health? Me and Sorrin?
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Sorrin got a little beat up. 33% down.
But, I've never played a character who walked around whining about healing. It's so UN-heroic.
Don't you worry, I'll whine about healing! Self-centered bard at your service.
Back now. Was driving home yesterday and got back late at night. No one threw up this time, so that was good.
My wife, who is 30 weeks pregnant was admitted to the hospital today. All is fine, but my posting may be more sporadic than normal. Please DMPC me as necessary.
Good to hear the rest of the trip was without incident Bri!
Congratulations and best of luck Ptahh!
Ptahh hope all is well with the family.
It's my game night so I won't be on this evening.
Ptahh, best of luck.
Freedom of Movement, is you got it.. You fancy types. Could help combat effectiveness.
Assuming another wereshark on land and maybe a spellcaster cleric... Toast.
It's been a good run!
No freedom of movement yet, but come level 10 it will be on Astri's spell list.
If one of the weresharks start casting Astri will put down a silence on the outcopping. If not, she'll lay down a haste on everyone and start an inspire courage.
We should be fine, but I'm a bit worried about the hybrid shark in the water, we don't know what those can do. I'm assuming we'll need to use silver against it though. The other sharks not so much, they should go down without much fuss unless they have some kind of advanced template. I don't think this is the final encounter we'll face on the island, but we shouldn't hold back.
Assuming another wereshark on land and maybe a spellcaster cleric... Toast.
It's been a good run!
Doom and gloom. Look at it as the glass is half full.
Just not feeling effective @ 5-7 damage output. Girly man.
Pearl of the Siren, I'm good.
Unchained fans?
What do you think about Automatic Bonus Progression
I have access to freedom of movement but didn't know it was so effective underwater. Then again it only works on one target. I can also get Ride the Waves which is water breathing and swim speed but single target. I need a multi-target swim spell.
...Can make one?
I really like what they did to the rogues in the unchained and some of the other rules. I haven't really read up on the auto bonus progression though.
Two freedom of movements one on each of the frontliners is all you really need. The caster are fine without.
I'll be offline till the afternoon.
Ptahh doesn't move much once engaged, relatively speaking. Considering he's got a piercing weapon and a feat that allows him to use any weapon as a piercing weapon...
...just needy Sorrin. 1 freedom! For FREEDOM.
I'm preparing to start a game using an unchained monk and many of the other unchained rules, and I really like a lot of what they did. The fact that the systems are modular as well really makes it nice.
For now Sorrin, you'll get your haste and like it!
The charging port on my laptop just broke, but thankfully I anticipated this and have already ordered the part to repair it. My posting will be slowed until I get the part tomorrow. Still have my phone, so shouldn't be too bad.
There must be someone in the air but all three of my games were super slow yesterday, it nearly shocked my system.
I'll be offline in the morning, take your actions. I'll do the sharks and make everything fit later.
Trains are light... Might just be vacation season. End of summer, before school.
But, but, but... Ptahh could use Weapon Versatility... Treat his weapon as piercing, get 3 attacks with Haste.
All his bonuses would even make up for DR 10/silver.
Going to work on fixing my laptop today, then I have a bunch of work to do. I'll be back in the evening, hopefully with a repaired laptop.
Soooooo I thought a Toshiba model C50 DC power jack would work in a Toshiba model C50-B laptop, and I was wrong. So laptop still out of commission while I wait on a different part to arrive.
On top of that, my grandmother passed away last night, so I will have to travel back home to attend the funeral soon. Phone still works at least!
Sorry to hear about your grandmother. My condolences.