Archivist (Bard) Lamentable Belaborment (Ex) Clarifications


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Lamentable Belaborment (Ex):

At 6th level, an archivist can bewilder a creature already fascinated by his performance. Using this ability does not disrupt the fascinate effect, but it does require a standard action to activate (in addition to the free action to continue the fascinate effect). The target must make a Will save (DC 10 + 1/2 the bard’s level + the bard’s Cha modifier). Success renders the target immune to this power for 24 hours, but failure leaves the target either dazed or confused (archivist’s choice) for as long as the performance continues. If the target takes damage, this effect ends immediately. This mind-affecting ability relies on audible components.
This ability replaces suggestion.

Fascinate (Su):
At 1st level, a bard can use his performance to cause one or more creatures to become fascinated with him. Each creature to be fascinated must be within 90 feet, able to see and hear the bard, and capable of paying attention to him. The bard must also be able to see the creatures affected. The Distraction of a nearby combat or other dangers prevents the ability from working. For every three levels a bard has attained beyond 1st, he can target one additional creature with this ability.

Each creature within range receives a Will save (DC 10 + 1/2 the bard’s level + the bard’s Cha modifier) to negate the effect. If a creature’s saving throw succeeds, the bard cannot attempt to fascinate that creature again for 24 hours. If its saving throw fails, the creature sits quietly and observes the performance for as long as the bard continues to maintain it. While fascinated, a target takes a –4 penalty on skill checks made as reactions, such as Perception checks. Any potential threat to the target allows the target to make a new saving throw against the effect. Any obvious threat, such as someone drawing a weapon, casting a spell, or aiming a weapon at the target, automatically breaks the effect.

Fascinate is an enchantment (compulsion), mind-affecting ability. Fascinate relies on audible and visual components in order to function.

1.) Does the the chosen effect end if fascinate ends?

2.) If facinate is still in effect, do targets affected by the confusion effect get up and move if they roll for attacking the closest creature and the closest target necessitates movement in order to attack?

3.) Does using this ability consume rounds of bardic performance alongside fascinate?

(Extra) Whats the point in dazing the target while fascinate is still in effect, especially if #1 was answered yes?


1) The target will be dazed or confused for the duration of the performance even if it ceases to be fascinated.

2) I interpret fascinate + confusion to mean you check for confusion and follow the results, and if the creature "acts normally", they act as if fascinated.

3) No. One performance is in effect.

extra) Fascination applies a perception penalty that daze does not, but is easier to break.

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