Silksworn Occultist: What is an "ostentatious garment"?


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Silksworn Implements wrote:
When a silksworn chooses an implement school, he does not choose a specific object. Instead, a silksworn must be wearing an ostentatious garment or magic item worth 10 gp or more of the appropriate type and in the appropriate slot: abjuration (wrists), conjuration (shoulders), divination (eyes), enchantment (neck), evocation (hands), illusion (head), necromancy (chest), and transmutation (feet). A silksworn who does not meet this requirement is treated as lacking the appropriate implement for the purpose of his class features, including spellcasting.

1) Does any appropriately-slotted item over 10gp qualify? For example, hollow-heeled boots? Or is the silksworn supposed to buy the item specifically named Ostentatious Garment:

Ostentatious Garment wrote:
This term covers items not listed elsewhere, such as elaborate wigs, silk-lined cloaks, and ruffled blouses. While such garments usually offers no benefit beyond fashion, a silksworn occultist must wear several such garments of suitable quality to access her magic.

2) Is it possible to just spend gold to make a non-qualifying garment into an implement? For example, if it's total value that qualifies, can I spend an extra 2gp for an extra-fancy 10gp pocketed scarf that counts as an implement? If you're supposed to be throwing extra money on the implement (on top of practical value), can I spend an extra 10gp to bling out my scarf?

In essence I think this is a question of whether this restriction is intended to simply limit your item purchases, require you to spend extra gold without practical benefit, or prevent you from using practical non-magical gear.

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Previous Discussion:

greystone wrote:
ALL "ostentatious" means is 'designed to impress or attract notice'. That means all it has to do is one of those. Paint that neck guard hot pink, and NOW it's "ostentatious". As such, I don't see why any item with a 10+ gp cost that's painted/dyed to 'to attract notice' isn't an implement for the silksworn.
Weirdo wrote:
The description also says: "While such garments usually offers no benefit beyond fashion, a silksworn occultist must wear several such garments of suitable quality to access her magic." Which implies that this specific item is required, and not other items worth 10gp or more.
graystone wrote:
That's not what the class says though. The requirement is "an ostentatious garment or magic item worth 10 gp or more of the appropriate type and in the appropriate slot". All the Quote you posted means is that the generic 'ostentatious garment' listed has no benefit. That means that if you take the example "elaborate wigs, silk-lined cloaks, and ruffled blouses", they don't give a bonus on disguise/diplomacy, help with bad weather, ect. It's to explain the listed 'ostentatious garment' is useless other than fashion: the fact that it "covers items not listed elsewhere" means it can't make an implication on those items. So I can't see the argument as a particularly valid one.


#1 it clearly isn't JUST the specific item as it states it "covers items not listed elsewhere", it it can't be the only option. from the class description, all the implement has to do is: fit in the slot, cost at least 10gp and 'be ostentatious'.

My question would be, why give a gp limit IF it meant to require the specific item? That info would be meaningless if you can only use the single required item.

#2 Sure can. What are the Ostentatious Garment but one that had extra gp spent on it?

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