Bonded Holy Symbol and familiar?


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Dark Archive

If i am an ecclesitheurge(ACG) and get the ability of Bonded Holy Symbol,
can i get a familiar by feat Eldritch Heritage(to achieve the Arcane Bond from Arcane Bloodline)?


Well, the arcane bloodline states:

Arcane Bond (Su): At 1st level, you gain an arcane bond, as a wizard equal to your sorcerer level. Your sorcerer levels stack with any wizard levels you possess when determining the powers of your familiar or bonded object. This ability does not allow you to have both a familiar and a bonded item.

And eccliesietheurge says

Bonded Holy Symbol (Su): At 3rd level, an ecclesitheurge forms a powerful bond with a holy symbol of his deity, which functions identically to a wizard’s bonded object except it can be used to cast cleric and domain spells (instead of wizard spells) and the ecclesitheurge can grant his bonded holy symbol only magic abilities appropriate for a holy symbol or a neck slot item.

So no.

Dark Archive

Java Man wrote:

Well, the arcane bloodline states:

Arcane Bond (Su): At 1st level, you gain an arcane bond, as a wizard equal to your sorcerer level. Your sorcerer levels stack with any wizard levels you possess when determining the powers of your familiar or bonded object. This ability does not allow you to have both a familiar and a bonded item.

And eccliesietheurge says

Bonded Holy Symbol (Su): At 3rd level, an ecclesitheurge forms a powerful bond with a holy symbol of his deity, which functions identically to a wizard’s bonded object except it can be used to cast cleric and domain spells (instead of wizard spells) and the ecclesitheurge can grant his bonded holy symbol only magic abilities appropriate for a holy symbol or a neck slot item.

So no.

Thank you.

DO I have any ways to get a familiar as an ecclesitheurge. .?


Rather than go the route of Skill Focus -> Eldritch Heritage, you can go the route of Iron Will -> Familiar Bond -> Improved Familiar Bond. It takes an extra feat but it will get you a familiar without the catch.


Saethori wrote:
Rather than go the route of Skill Focus -> Eldritch Heritage, you can go the route of Iron Will -> Familiar Bond -> Improved Familiar Bond. It takes an extra feat but it will get you a familiar without the catch.

If you don't want to spend 2 feats, the trait House of Green Mothers Pupil lets you pick up Familiar bond without iron will.


The catch on Eldritch Heritage is inconvenient.

Grand Lodge

nebulainfi wrote:

If i am an ecclesitheurge(ACG) and get the ability of Bonded Holy Symbol,

can i get a familiar by feat Eldritch Heritage(to achieve the Arcane Bond from Arcane Bloodline)?

Lets complicate things still further like I did making oh so many mistakes beyond belief. I have a (Half-human/Half-elf)Arcanist4/Ecclesitheurge3/Mystic Theurge5. This is Homebrewed, but, claims strict adherence to PFS books acquired. CORE,ACG and only a couple of others Inner Sea, Occult, Campaign off top of my head.

I know I possibly necro'd this however....

I get a divine bond at Ecclesitheurge 3rd Level,
The Arcanist:
Familiar (Ex): An arcanist with this exploit can acquire a familiar as the arcane bond wizard class feature, using her arcanist level as her wizard level to determine any of the statistics and abilities of the familiar. If the arcanist receives a familiar from another class, her levels of arcanist stack with the levels from that class when determining the familiar's statistics and abilities (this ability does not stack with a familiar gained through the bloodline development exploit; she must choose one or the other).

I assume a character may not have a (divine) bonded object and a_(n arcane bonded) familiar. Or 2 familiars named Florence and Erlynmeyer or 2 bonded objects attached to one another around one's neck/ring or whatever.

Just for more interest and possibilities Home Brew Pantheon Neutral god of Magic (Magic, Time, Nobility domains) Picked Magic primary and Time secondary. What may I do and what may I not do quick quid pro quo RAW, and then some RAI thoughts. I have not thought this through very well-NOTED.


Could you rephrase the question? I have no idea what you are asking.

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