Feather Fall as a move action


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I always assumed that you could use a longer action for anything you could use a shorter action for. So for example, something you could do as a swift action, you could do as a move action instead of moving.

Is this correct though? So, for example, if you've already used your swift action but then you fall off a cliff, can you cast Feather Fall as a move action? Or a standard action? Or both?


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No, there is no support in the rules for using a standard or move action to activate an ability that requires a swift action.

Grand Lodge

FF is an immediate action to cast, so it's next rounds swift action. Othwise Gauss covered it.

If you move into a pit using your move action, you will hit the bottom before you get a standard action so immediate is the only way to go in your example.

The only action conversion allowed is using a standard as a second move action. More specifically single swift actions are designed to balance power through action economy.


"You can perform one swift action per turn without affecting your ability to perform other actions."

If you have two actions that are swift and want to take both of those actions in the same round, you can only take one of them as swift. There is nothing in the rule that states you cannot take the other action at all. The second "swift" action WILL affect your ability to perform other actions. I don't think you could use Feather Fall as you described, as a Move Action, but you could as your normal Standard Action, which includes casting a spell.


Hmm, so what about reloading a crossbow?

A light crossbow is a move action to reload, with rapid reload that becomes a swift action. So you can reload it as a swift, leaving your move action free to move. But can't you also choose to reload it as a move action if you want your swift action to do something else?


Naglfarthedwarf wrote:

Hmm, so what about reloading a crossbow?

A light crossbow is a move action to reload, with rapid reload that becomes a swift action. So you can reload it as a swift, leaving your move action free to move. But can't you also choose to reload it as a move action if you want your swift action to do something else?

Rapid Reload makes reloading a light crossbow a free action not a swift action.


Naglfarthedwarf wrote:

Hmm, so what about reloading a crossbow?

A light crossbow is a move action to reload, with rapid reload that becomes a swift action. So you can reload it as a swift, leaving your move action free to move. But can't you also choose to reload it as a move action if you want your swift action to do something else?

yeah but that isnt action conversion like you're talking about, thats you deciding not to use a feat's beneficial effect.


Meatmutton, yeah you're right, my mistake I was thinking of the heavy crossbow going from a standard to a move.

Thanks for the clarification all.

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