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You know, if you wanted to do a powerful magic/melee type Vishkanya you could always do the sword/fist/claw thing with a Rage-using Dragon Disciple. Rather than using Spell Combat, you end up with huge strength and a hasted full attack that goes Sword/ Dragon Style Strike/ Sword/ Claw /Bite /Sword.

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I've had my friend already get in a rules fight with a GM about iterative attacks between standard attacks... so, as much as it sounds cool- i'll avoid it.
As cool as the Moonlight Stalker looks, that feels a lot more like a rogue sneak-attack facilitater.


Moonlight Stalker itself is a straight-up combat feat; +2 attack and damage is the kind of thing a Fighter takes focus + specialization + greater focus for, and few other characters have the opportunity to grab that kind of combat upgrade through feats. With a one-handed weapon it's like a bonus +4STR. The later feats in the chain aren't worth taking for your purposes, but Moonlight Stalker itself is a huge asset.

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Selvaxri wrote:

I've had my friend already get in a rules fight with a GM about iterative attacks between standard attacks... so, as much as it sounds cool- i'll avoid it.

As cool as the Moonlight Stalker looks, that feels a lot more like a rogue sneak-attack facilitater.

What do you mean by "iterative attacks between standard attacks"?

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claudekennilol wrote:
Selvaxri wrote:

I've had my friend already get in a rules fight with a GM about iterative attacks between standard attacks... so, as much as it sounds cool- i'll avoid it.

As cool as the Moonlight Stalker looks, that feels a lot more like a rogue sneak-attack facilitater.
What do you mean by "iterative attacks between standard attacks"?

He has a Ragechemist with Dragon Style and Improved Unarmed Strike. in the big fight, while hasted, during a full attack- he and the GM got into an argument about how many attacks he actually got.

But that's not the discussion of this thread.

Anywho- does Eldritch Scion and Bladebound archetypes stack? I have a feeling they don't as Eldritch Scion "alters" the Arcane Pool.
I'm still debating if Moonlight Stalker is better than a sentient sword.

Also, since i don't get the Enhancement bonus of the Arcane Pool with the Eldritch Scion, i will be more reliant on the Stalker Damage when i can get it...


Eldritch Scion does get normal Arcane Pool stuff as well:

"At 4th level, an eldritch scion can also use his eldritch pool as an arcane pool, gaining all the benefits listed with the magus's arcane pool class feature."

I think a lot of people miss that the first time, since it's way down in the text. If they didn't get the normal Pool stuff, Eldritch Scion would be awful.

Bladebound won't work with Eldritch Scion. Bladebound has definite upsides, but it also has significant drawbacks, including the fact that it weakens your own Arcane Pool. Also, you can never customize a Black Blade with something like Spell Storing, and it's own pool and abilities are pretty minimal.

Another option, if you wanted to weaponize your racial venom, would be to do some kind of Barbarian1/Sorcerer or Barbarian1/Oracle and use the Raging Vitality and Extra Rage feats; Rage + Raging Vitality will grant you 5 or 6 venom attacks per day with a pretty high DC, and you can weaken enemy saves in combat with Cornugon Smash or Enforcer. Take the Sleeping Venom feat and it can be a pretty strong knockout weapon.

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heh, the Sleep Venom feat is definitely worth considering. i'm not looking to fully weaponize my venom, but use it as possible fail-safe.


The annoying thing about Sleep Venom is that, for most builds, it's a waste of a feat; you only get to do it twice a day, and the DC vs. Fortitude isn't very threatening. But if you can gain +6CON through a free-action.... Also, a Dual-Cursed Oracle's Misfortune ability can force a save reroll, so a Barbarian/ Dual-Cursed Oracle could toss raging 20CON venom many times a day, and screw with the enemy's saving throw if it looks like they're going to make it.

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True, and building around the notion of using a racial poison doesn't seem feasible when there are obviously better options than "i smack you! you still alive? make a fort save. You fail? You asleep now!"

if i could, i'd want to find someway to use my poison.

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Revitalization!

So, my Eldritch Scion Magus has reached lvl 3, and now he has access to Arcana, I'm more inclined to getting the Flamboyant arcana as he doesn't have access to 2nd lvl spells yet- and Hideous Laughter is a 2nd lvl Wizard spell, wit it'll have to wait until Spell Blending at 6th, unless there are better options..
A familiar is just going to get in the way.

So here's another question-
As an Eldritch Scion with the Arcana bloodline, it says-

Quote:
At 7th level, an eldritch scion gains the bonus spell from his bloodrager bloodline that is normally gained at 10th level. He gains the next three bonus spells from his bloodline at 9th, 11th, and 13th levels, respectively. This ability replaces knowledge pool.

Arcane Bloodline gets magic missile (7th), invisibility (10th), lightning bolt (13th), dimension door (16th)...

Does this mean my magus doesn't get Magic Missile? Or do i get both Magic Missile AND Invisibilty at 7th?

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