Size Rules


Rules Questions


What are the specific rules surrounding creatures that are size Tiny or smaller and could I get a link to them please?

The PRD is incredibly unintuitive and I can't find them anywhere, save for the generic "size bonuses" table, which doesn't cover everything.

Silver Crusade Contributor

Which specific Tiny-sized rules? The problem (as you seem to be aware) is that they're spread all over the place, in lots of different places.

(Sorry if this seems unhelpful.)


Such as being allowed to choose between Dex or Str for attacks, CMB/D, etc.

Silver Crusade Contributor

Not sure about getting to choose between Dex and Str. Can you tell me how you reached that conclusion?

As for CMB & CMD: Bestiary, page 296. Table 2-3.


I've read it somewhere and now I can't find it. :(
Ty for CMB/D reference. :)


If you look at a typical tiny monster you'll notice (a) it has a good attack bonus, derived from its dexterity, and (b) it has the Weapon Finesse feat, which is the actual reason it gets to use dexterity that way.


You might have been thinking of a Tiny creature's ability to use Dexterity rather than Strength for Climb and Swim checks.

Liberty's Edge

Or the familiar with its natural weapons ;-)


It may not apply to Tiny, but be for Diminutive and Fine, but I know it wasn't the errata for Climb/Swim, and that it was specifically talking about getting to choose for Attack rolls.

Ugh, wish I could find it. :/

Liberty's Edge

There was a rule in 3.5, but PFRPG went the Finesse feat way ;-)


Familiars say if they are small enough they can choose which stat to use.


Default tiny and smaller creatures do not get to choose to use dexterity instead of strength to attack with. Familiars seem to be the exception (and it's not limited by size).

PRD:familiars wrote:
Attacks: Use the master's base attack bonus, as calculated from all his classes. Use the familiar's Dexterity or Strength modifier, whichever is greater, to calculate the familiar's melee attack bonus with natural weapons.

Looks to me like they usually rely on the size modifier for really small stuff to gain a good to hit. None of the tiny- critters I looked at without weapon finesse got to use dex instead of strength to hit. A lot of tiny critters select weapon finesses as their first feat. Note also that some tiny- creatures such as the Inevitable (arbiter) and gremlin(grimple) gain finesse as a bonus feat.

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