| Johnny Chronicle |
If you're using the Purge Basics and Elites by Adventure Deck instructions on page 9 of the OP Guide, should you remove all the Blessings of Ascension along with the Basics/Elites of all other card types?
The AP "card" of SotS specifically said not to remove Blessings of the Gods, but there's no such guideline on SotR's. Text in question:
Purge Basics and Elites by Adventure Deck: Each season’s Adventure Path tells you when and how to begin removing cards with the Basic and Elite traits from the game. To make things more interesting and to help you remove the right cards faster, when you add a new Adventure Deck to your game box after adventure 3, remove all cards with the Basic and Elite traits with adventure deck numbers at least three lower than the adventure deck you just added.
Side Note: Is anyone using the standard style of Basic/Elite removal ("when you would banish...") described on the SotR AP for OP? It would seem to add an awkward level of bookkeeping if one box was being used by different groups/players.
Thanks!
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Hmm...my guess is that you should leave Blessings of Ascension (== "Basic Blessings with an AD number of 0") and not doing so is an omission from either the Guild Guide or the AP "card". However, in Season of the Shackles it's hard to find upgrades for Blessings due to the overwhelming number of B Blessings, so I'm not sure.
It makes me wonder how many Blessings of Ascension have been removed by folks playing the main WotR campaign.
We replace Basics/Elites as we go in Guild games. I doubt anyone uses the normal rules, instead opting for one of the rules in the Guide.
You can play the Season of the (Whatever) Adventure Paths using the same rules as playing the base set's Adventure Path, and there you'd use the normal rules for removing cards. You can't get Guild credit for your characters, but that's OK. It's nice to have another adventure available for your already $120 game.
| zeroth_hour |
Theryon is right; as painful as it is to not find any blessings higher than B, I wouldn't remove any Blessing of Ascensions; it's not just that they're useful, it's that if your box is used for multiple games purging all or nothing is the only thing you can really do so purging all of them doesn't make any sense.
| Johnny Chronicle |
Silly question, why would you remove those?
Well, because that's what the Guide says to do. It says "remove all cards with the Basic and Elite traits..." No mention of treating Basic Blessings differently. But, given some of the considerations you and zeroth mentioned, as well as the precedent of Season Zero, it gave me pause, hence the question (silly though it may be).
Theryon Stormrune
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Theryon Stormrune wrote:Silly question, why would you remove those?Well, because that's what the Guide says to do. It says "remove all cards with the Basic and Elite traits..." No mention of treating Basic Blessings differently. But, given some of the considerations you and zeroth mentioned, as well as the precedent of Season Zero, it gave me pause, hence the question (silly though it may be).
Except that's not what it says specifically.
Two things, if you read the AP sheet from Season of the Righteous, it says that you may remove them when banished. Banes are removed. The guide then states that you may turn to the Adventure Path for the method of removal. Second, the quick-n-easy method of removing all Basics is not the primary method.
Yes, a lot of bookkeeping but it would alleviate the issue. Unless you feel that you need to remove them.
Personally, I would have simply not removed them and figured it was missed on the AP sheet.
| Johnny Chronicle |
I'm not sure I'm getting my main question across here. I'm aware of the Basic/Elite removal instructions on the SotR AP sheet. It's the same phrasing as is on the Wrath AP card.
After you begin Adventure 3, when you would banish a bane that has the Basic trait, remove it from the game; when you banish a boon that has the Basic trait, you may remove it from the game. After you begin Adventure 5, do the same for cards that have the Elite trait.
Understood. But the OP Guide offers an alternative.
Purge Basics and Elites by Adventure Deck: Each season’s Adventure Path tells you when and how to begin removing cards with the Basic and Elite traits from the game. To make things more interesting and to help you remove the right cards faster, when you add a new Adventure Deck to your game box after adventure 3, remove all cards with the Basic and Elite traits with adventure deck numbers at least three lower than the adventure deck you just added.
The emphasized text indicates that this is an alternative to the AP sheet instructions -- the "quick 'n' easy" method, as you say.
Using the "Purge by Adventure Deck" method of preparing the box, there appears to be nothing telling you NOT to remove the B-Basic Blessings along with all the other B Basics/Elites.
My question is: Is this intentional? If using this method, should they stay or should they go?
Would love to hear Tanis' thoughts...
Thanks!
| Shade325 |
They had this problem with Season of the Shackles as well. The default of that Adventure Path as the Quick and Easy method. The initial text on the Adventure Path Card said nothing about Blessings of the Gods but later in the season they updated the Adventure Path Card to exclude Blessing of the Gods from the purging.
As Blessing of the Gods was the B-Basic Blessing for the S&S set I imagine the same should hold with Blessing of Ascension which is the WotR B-Basic Blessing.
But as written right now there is nothing to confirm this.