| Michael Grate |
I recently got a mount who I'm archetyping as a charger. One of the bonuses from this is the Mounted Challenge:
When ridden by a cavalier, chargers gain half of the bonuses and penalties granted by the cavalier's challenge class feature.
I am a level 15 cavalier who is in the Order of the Cockatrice. I have Demanding Challenge (site used for direct link, description is exactly the same though) and my character is wearing Vambraces of the Tactician and has a Champion's Banner (can't find the item on PRD).
So, when challenging I gain a damage bonus of 21 (15 for levels, 2 for the Vambraces and 4 for the Banner), an extra damage boost of 6 if I'm threatening the enemy alone (not including my mount) (again, level and wondrous items), the enemy takes a -2 to their AC against others when I'm threatening them and I take a -2 to my AC when attacked by someone other than my challenge.
What does my mount take from this? The obvious ones would be the base level bonus (so 7 (15/2 rounded down) and the AC penalty against others (so -1) but what about the order bonus, wondrous item boosts and Demanding Challenge addition.
Those are all boosts to my challenge which by raw reading means my mount should get those as well but a case could be made against for each. Of course I could also argue a case for (I'm not because then this becomes a debate with myself and I'm back to square 1). So, how should this work?
Also, assuming they do work (at least the Order and demanding challenge bonuses), how are they applied? For the Order bonus, since my mount doesn't count against my damage boost, would I count against hers or does it still have to be others that end this effect?
For Demanding Challenge, would the enemy gain a -1 AC against me (half of my imposed penalty against them) (and just for clarification, would my mount gain the -2 AC I impose against the enemy in the first place?) and a cumulative -3 AC against others?
Thanks for the help and sorry wor such a long post.
| Michael Grate |
The items raise your level for the challenge so your mount gains a +10 to damage.
Your mount doesn't get the order bonuses, nor does is create a demanding challenge.
Thank you for the feedback.
That makes sense but may I ask the reasoning. At least for the demanding challenge part, I realize the order bonus (especially give the Order of the Cockatrice restriction) would be somewhat of a stretch.