Why zip up PDFs?


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Why does Paizo provide various single PDFs as .zip archives? My understanding is that the algorithm for creating a PDF already uses Zip compression when necessary, so there should be little or no benefit from further zipping a .pdf file. At least that's what I gathered from this web page (among others). Am I misreading something?

(The reason I'm asking is because my work firewall blocks .zip files, of course.)

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hogarth wrote:

Why does Paizo provide various single PDFs as .zip archives? My understanding is that the algorithm for creating a PDF already uses Zip compression when necessary, so there should be little or no benefit from further zipping a .pdf file. At least that's what I gathered from this web page (among others). Am I misreading something?

(The reason I'm asking is because my work firewall blocks .zip files, of course.)

I've found that when it's a straight pdf, the browser opens it as the default rather than downloading it. It doesn't produce any significant extra compression I can see.


Well, .zip-ping a PDF does reduce the size... Approximately 5% average from the sampling I did of my Paizo PDF collection.

As someone who is about to move to an area where dial up is the most financially efficient internet connection, I can see that as still being welcome. (It can cost $1000+ to get cable run to your house, before monthly costs.)


Disenchanter wrote:
Well, .zip-ping a PDF does reduce the size... Approximately 5% average from the sampling I did of my Paizo PDF collection.

My understanding was that that's a sign of an inefficient .pdf creator, but again I could be mistaken.

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We actually don't do any compression in the .zip -- it's purely to prevent the PDF from simply opening in the browser window, which we've found confuses some customers.


Ah, that makes sense. Doesn't help me, but it makes sense. :-)


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hogarth wrote:
Ah, that makes sense. Doesn't help me, but it makes sense. :-)

Could you unzip them on your home computer, throw them on a flash drive and bring them to work?


Jam412 wrote:
Could you unzip them on your home computer, throw them on a flash drive and bring them to work?

Yes (I carry around my PDFs on a 16GB flash drive for convenience). But check with your workplace with regard to reviewing said content on their machines.


Jam412 wrote:
hogarth wrote:
Ah, that makes sense. Doesn't help me, but it makes sense. :-)
Could you unzip them on your home computer, throw them on a flash drive and bring them to work?

Oh sure (or e-mail them to myself, or whatever); it's not really a problem (especially considering that work hours are for, you know, working).

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You could run a proxy server that is programmed to unzip them on the proxy server before sending them to you. It is a lot of work and probably not worth it. It is an option though.


If you don't zip up - then its likely to get a might chilly... especially round this time of year [nippit sweeties!] ;)

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hogarth wrote:
Disenchanter wrote:
Well, .zip-ping a PDF does reduce the size... Approximately 5% average from the sampling I did of my Paizo PDF collection.
My understanding was that that's a sign of an inefficient .pdf creator, but again I could be mistaken.

Not necessarily... while the images in a PDF can be compressed, the images are only part of the story. If you use zip compression on a PDF—even one that has compressed images—you'll usually still save a little bit of space because you're compressing other portions of the document.


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hogarth wrote:
work hours are for, you know, working

Yeeeaahh sure.... (typing this while I'm "working")


Urizen wrote:
Jam412 wrote:
Could you unzip them on your home computer, throw them on a flash drive and bring them to work?
Yes (I carry around my PDFs on a 16GB flash drive for convenience). But check with your workplace with regard to reviewing said content on their machines.

If your workplace has a half way decent IT/Security department, they should be against you bringing flash drives to work.

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