losing and using teamwork feats


Rules Questions


Teamwork Feats wrote:

Teamwork feats grant large bonuses, but they only function under specific circumstances. In most cases, these feats require an ally who also possesses the feat to be positioned carefully on the battlefield.

Teamwork feats provide no bonus if the listed conditions are not met. Note that allies who are paralyzed, stunned, unconscious, or otherwise unable to act do not count for the purposes of these feats.
Feat Prerequisites wrote:

Prerequisites

Some feats have prerequisites. Your character must have the indicated ability score, class feature, feat, skill, base attack bonus, or other quality designated in order to select or use that feat. A character can gain a feat at the same level at which he gains the prerequisite.

A character can't use a feat if he loses a prerequisite, but he does not lose the feat itself. If, at a later time, he regains the lost prerequisite, he immediately regains full use of the feat that prerequisite enables.

If my ally loses the pre-requisites for a feat, he obviously cannot use it, but does he still "possess" it such that I can use my feat? The ally is neither stunned etc and otherwise fulfills the listed conditions (such as being adjacent for Paired Opportunists).


The parts that you quoted seems to indicate that your ally who lost the prerequisite for the teamwork feat still counts as a valid teamwork ally for the purposes of your teamwork feat.
I guess the question is, does "not lose the feat" equal "possess the feat", as far as rules terminology goes. I'd say they are equal.


The next question becomes, and is really the heart of the issue, Hunters and their companion - Hunter cannot use his feat with combat expertise as a pre-requisite due to intelligence drain. Does he still grant that feat to his AnC, and does he still count as a valid teamwork ally for that feat so his AnC can use it?


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This really falls under common sense more than strict RAW. If you cannot use a feat because you have lost the prerequisite you cannot count as an ally who possesses the feat.


Agreed with Gauss.


Party poopers - I mean, bringing common sense into a rules question, whatever next!

Pft on reflection I suppose you're right, but it was such a neat solution to the problem.

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