summon good monster - wowness


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/agathion/agathi on-vulpinal

with NG sacred summon it's a sdandard lvl 5 spell to bring a creature that can :
heal
charm
dispel evil
holy smite

wow.... just... wow of a feat.


OK....

Sacred Summons gives you a standard action instead of a full orund.

Vulpinal does not HEAL it removes disease 3 times a day and lays on hands 6 time a day.

Its a 5th level spell.

It is probably a little less useful in combat then a Bralani (also summonable with the same spell) but a little more useful out of combat. Seems reasonably balanced to me.


Vulpinals are also small so they fit inside an Emergency Force Sphere while being summoned and then healing your poor cowardly wizard who was just beaten by a nasty critter.

Speaking from experience, here.


Ughbash wrote:

OK....

Sacred Summons gives you a standard action instead of a full orund.

Vulpinal does not HEAL it removes disease 3 times a day and lays on hands 6 time a day.

Its a 5th level spell.

It is probably a little less useful in combat then a Bralani (also summonable with the same spell) but a little more useful out of combat. Seems reasonably balanced to me.

How is a bralani even close?

It got 2 ligbting bolts and a bow.
Healing be can heal 3d8+6×2 or avg of 36.

The agathion on the other hand :
3 holy smite (way better area thab lighting)
3 charm monster (ultimate controll the brute spell)
3,dispel evil that allow auto dispel magic and effects
Heal 6×3d6 or avg of 60.
Also, with 3 knowledge of 21, he is a summoned sage!


666bender wrote:
Ughbash wrote:

OK....

Sacred Summons gives you a standard action instead of a full orund.

Vulpinal does not HEAL it removes disease 3 times a day and lays on hands 6 time a day.

Its a 5th level spell.

It is probably a little less useful in combat then a Bralani (also summonable with the same spell) but a little more useful out of combat. Seems reasonably balanced to me.

How is a bralani even close?

It got 2 ligbting bolts and a bow.
Healing be can heal 3d8+6×2 or avg of 36.

The agathion on the other hand :
3 holy smite (way better area thab lighting)
3 charm monster (ultimate controll the brute spell)
3,dispel evil that allow auto dispel magic and effects
Heal 6×3d6 or avg of 60.
Also, with 3 knowledge of 21, he is a summoned sage!

Flight, it can cast wind walk on itself (which is just a better gaseous form, so it still has DR 10/ magic, which may or may not be useful), and it can use both its SLAs and a fairly basic but at will cone ability while in that wind form.

Not saying it is more versatile, but it has its uses.

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