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Frenzied Berseker - Complete Warrior
Primeval - Frostburn
Champion of Gwynharwyf - Book of Exalted Deeds
Urban Soul - Races of Destiny
Wrathful Avenger of Sargonnas- Holy Orders of the Stars
Bone Knight - Five Nations
Flame Steward - Dragon 283
Waker of The Beast - Dragon 289
Vengeance Sworn - Dragon 296
If I sat and looked though my 3rd edition books I'd probably find a lot more but these were the main ones off the top of my head.
Enlightened Fist
Ghost Faced Killer
And most of all, Shadow Adept.
Incantatrix was broken, but fun at times as well.
Prestige classes I miss...
Runesmith (Races of Stone) Again, I don't like racial restrictions, but the concept of using runes to get around somatic components is extremely flavorful and a fun idea in general. I'll admit it's flavorful for dwarves, but it also works well for germanic and nordic concepts, as well as potentially evoking lost or primitive forms of magic.
I like that one, too. It was one of the big inspirations for The Runemage.
I loved Initiate of Draconic Mysteries. Definitely my favourite!
Runners up for me was the Tempest and Weapon Master. I know they were converted to archetypes but I honestly found them a bit disappointing since I loved mixing the two within one character and it really isn't an option with the Fighter base class now since they trade the same things.
Radiant Servant of (Sarenrae). Want.
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Loved the Blood Magus, HATE the Bloatmage for taking that spot on the Prestige list as a "Hemotheurge". I've been working on a concept for PF for too long, Concerning the Blood caster i've always wanted to play. Let me just say trying to incorporate con damage SUCKS(kinda a inside pun) for trying to balance an Archetype/Prestige Class that takes HP to increase CL/DC of spells. something to the extent you can only sap so much HP before you start suffering from anemia. Every spell would cost 2x Spell Level in HP, eventually when sacrificing x% of HP from that ability you'd start losing con every time you used it. It scale too, like sac double the hp to increase CL by 2 instead of just one.
Bloatmage has a of risk reward system. but it has only ever gave me the impression of you still being a slave to your blood and not the master.
Also trying to Avoid sucking blood from anything really. To avoid the Archetype from being illegal in PFS play. which is proving to be quite difficult. Which makes me wonder if that whats what Sutter was trying to avoid in the Bloat pool thingy. Hmmm, Well played James, well played.
I'm sure I'll figure something out to help recover blood faster. Or maybe not. Just make it part of the inherit risk of using the power. even thought once of making it like the Empyreal and Sage Bloodline. Switching spell casting mods from Cha to Con. To help off set the HP loss. Yeah sounds more like a Archetype to replace Bloodlines and other stuff I know. But i've got to have something to work towards.
I Love the Idea of blood magic but I don't want it to be something too convoluted or overtly evil in nature. Maybe Occult adventures will have some form of Blood caster that will at least sate my thirst.
None of them. Seriously, none.
Prestige classes are a temptation of Pandora's box. They tempt a company to make more and more and let the powerbloat of untested Prestige classes explode.
They already have powerbloat with base classes. There is no need to expand that temptation to overwhelming with prestige classes the way WotC did it.
None of them. Seriously, none.
Prestige classes are a temptation of Pandora's box. They tempt a company to make more and more and let the powerbloat of untested Prestige classes explode.
They already have powerbloat with base classes. There is no need to expand that temptation to overwhelming with prestige classes the way WotC did it.
A lot of the prestige classes work best as Archetypes (kits in AD&D 2nd and Training Packages in Rolemaster the Standard System/RMFRP).
The problem with the Fighter in 3.x was that no one in Wizards understood how customizable the class was. So they used Archetypes as the way to customize your character, and all we got was a cookie cutter machine. The fighter class is the most generic of all the classes in D&D. When they added new mundane classes (thief, and to a lesser extent, the ranger, bard, and paladin) -- they were all fighters with different abilities.
Fighters are the masters of weapon styles and weapons. They are martial Artists, and archetypes are best to show off how customizable they were. The prestige class is now in it's proper niche. A class that is associated with an organization, or gives you benefits with your talents.
The Alienist works best as an archetype, for instance. So would the Acolyte of the Skin. But I'll have to go through my books to find out which would be best to re-appear. :)
I loved the Swiftblade but basically never got to play it. I should write up a homebrew Bloodrager archetype for it.
Zerth cenobit was one of my favs.
Logged in just to say yah to that class, or at least having something like it. I guess the closest would be a time oracle with some monk levels or unarmed strike.
Loved the Blood Magus, HATE the Bloatmage for taking that spot on the Prestige list as a "Hemotheurge". I've been working on a concept for PF for too long, Concerning the Blood caster i've always wanted to play. Let me just say trying to incorporate con damage SUCKS(kinda a inside pun) for trying to balance an Archetype/Prestige Class that takes HP to increase CL/DC of spells. something to the extent you can only sap so much HP before you start suffering from anemia. Every spell would cost 2x Spell Level in HP, eventually when sacrificing x% of HP from that ability you'd start losing con every time you used it. It scale too, like sac double the hp to increase CL by 2 instead of just one.
Bloatmage has a of risk reward system. but it has only ever gave me the impression of you still being a slave to your blood and not the master.
Also trying to Avoid sucking blood from anything really. To avoid the Archetype from being illegal in PFS play. which is proving to be quite difficult. Which makes me wonder if that whats what Sutter was trying to avoid in the Bloat pool thingy. Hmmm, Well played James, well played.
I'm sure I'll figure something out to help recover blood faster. Or maybe not. Just make it part of the inherit risk of using the power. even thought once of making it like the Empyreal and Sage Bloodline. Switching spell casting mods from Cha to Con. To help off set the HP loss. Yeah sounds more like a Archetype to replace Bloodlines and other stuff I know. But i've got to have something to work towards.
I Love the Idea of blood magic but I don't want it to be something too convoluted or overtly evil in nature. Maybe Occult adventures will have some form of Blood caster that will at least sate my thirst.
Oh come on the Bloat mage is so flavourful! I love the idea of these blood bloated mages all tanked up and high on their own blood to power their magic and then going crazy. Plus visually it's cool to see this puff ball of a person that is powerful because they are storing so much extra blood in their bodies.
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Oh come on the Bloat mage is so flavourful! I love the idea of these blood bloated mages all tanked up and high on their own blood to power their magic and then going crazy. Plus visually it's cool to see this puff ball of a person that is powerful because they...
Yeah I know. Just that their flavor is like black coffee. Bitter but Sufficient with drawbacks if not taken properly. where as old Blood Magus was like a strawberry float. Sweet and rewarding but shouldn't be taken in excess.
Fochlucan Lyrist possibly as a bard and druid archetype and a dual prestige class.
Yeah I know. Just that their flavor is like black coffee. Bitter but Sufficient with drawbacks if not taken properly. where as old Blood Magus was like a strawberry float. Sweet and rewarding but shouldn't be taken in excess.Oh come on the Bloat mage is so flavourful! I love the idea of these blood bloated mages all tanked up and high on their own blood to power their magic and then going crazy. Plus visually it's cool to see this puff ball of a person that is powerful because they...
Well then sir we will agree to disagree!
Oh and interesting stat line. ;)
On another note...Acolyte of the Ego...neat concept but with seemingly unrealiable abilities.
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Force Missile Mage
Dervish Dancer
Master Thrower
While for the most part, I've abandoned use of Prestige Classes in playing Pathfinder, through Rite Publishing, for the Kaidan setting of Japanese horror (PFRPG), we did create 3 new prestige classes, 1 in our Way of the Yakuza supplement and 2 in our Way of the Samurai supplement.
The Machi-Yakko is a prestige class for Yakuza bosses that grant arcane tattoos as well as share of profits, and influence on the local community. Historically machi-yakko were the founders of the yakuza, originally providing protection (real protection and not racketeering) to street vendors susceptable to attacks by ronin gangs at the end of the Sengoku Period.
Bugyo (pronounced Boog-yo) are government officials from tax collectors to regional governors with great diplomatic powers, fitting L5R styled courtiers and gaining some samurai abilities.
Mosa is kind of a samurai tank with DR, stalwart defense and bravery, for those that want to play the samurai as frontline combatants with better capabilities than standard samurai.
Rather than making PrC that players would want to play instead of standard PCs, the Kaidan PrC are more flavor differences to fit a specific schtick, not necessarily being superior classes.