Shhh. It's a secret.


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Grand Lodge

So, I have put together a Warpriest PC, and intend to run it.

I chose the Eldest, Ng the Hooded, as my god.

Now, I like to have my religious PCs, to have some of kind of idea what they worship, and what that worship entails.

With this god, there is little, to none, of information on what either of those are.

All I have to work with, is his love of secrets, and being secretive.

Any advice on how to wing it?

Sczarni

I'd tell you but I'd have to kill you...

Wear a mask, use illusions/glammer/etc

It's such a secret even the most devout priests don't know anything... and if they do, they keep that a secret =D

Grand Lodge

Oh, I did find out that he once wanted to create five additional seasons, that make no sense,

or maybe he didn't.:
The information in Kingmaker, in which you can actually meet him, in First World, is vague, at best. No description of him, or anything he says or doesn't say either.

Also, from Kingmaker, I found additional information, about how he likes secrets, and being secretive.

Scarab Sages

Your cleric needs to take a few cues from "The Sphinx":

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He was so good at concealing his identity and speaking mysteriously that he gained a reputation for being terribly mysterious and word of his powers had also spread to some.


I would make him to where he is obtaining as many secrets as possible. Like an information broker that eventually ends up learning the great lie of the known world and it it's told, reality to would unravel and revert back tot he first world.

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What are his domains? You should be able to extrapolate a lot about him by the magical powers offered to his followers.

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1st rule of the Ng Priesthood: Do not talk about the Ng Priesthood.

Scarab Sages

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Hooded Ng and I are getting old
And we still haven't walked in the glow
Of each other's majestic presence

Listen Eldest, hear my words
They're the ones you would think I would say
If there was a me for you


Remember to ask "How did you know that?" in regards to everything. Including things that are plainly visible or that people just witnessed you do.

Grand Lodge

Jiggy wrote:
What are his domains? You should be able to extrapolate a lot about him by the magical powers offered to his followers.

In the link in the OP, it notes Knowledge, Magic, Travel, Weather, and his Portfolio is The seasons, secrets, wanderers.

Grand Lodge

My only idea, so far, is to loosely base the worship on Tzeentch: God of change, fate, mutation and knowledge.

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

From the domains/portfolio listed, I imagine someone going on a long journey, traveling thousands of miles over the course of many years, just to learn more about the world and its secrets.

Scarab Sages

Why did you choose Ng as your deity? Since I assume this is for your clubber it's not for the weapon, so is it for the domains/blessings? You can get similar ones from elsewhere that may be easier to worship. The eldest are all pretty much footnote deities that don't have much published info available for notes on worshiping them.

In a home game, you could make stuff up, but for PFS, you are limited to published lore.

Shadow Lodge

I agree with Jiggy, plus the journey and knowledge change the warpriest in some way, physically and/or mentally.


I plan on using a fey in my campaign that serves Ng. He will ask the PCs for secrets as payment for services. The worth of a secret is related to how badly those who know it want to keep it unknown and how many people know it.


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The name of his high priestess is Donatella Nobody.

Grand Lodge

Imbicatus wrote:

Why did you choose Ng as your deity? Since I assume this is for your clubber it's not for the weapon, so is it for the domains/blessings? You can get similar ones from elsewhere that may be easier to worship. The eldest are all pretty much footnote deities that don't have much published info available for notes on worshiping them.

In a home game, you could make stuff up, but for PFS, you are limited to published lore.

It made the most sense in regards to domains/alignment/region. There was nothing similar PFS legal.

I am not sure why PFS would disallow filling in the blanks. That makes no sense.

Grand Lodge

Jiggy wrote:
From the domains/portfolio listed, I imagine someone going on a long journey, traveling thousands of miles over the course of many years, just to learn more about the world and its secrets.

This sounds like, well, an adventurer.


blackbloodtroll wrote:
Jiggy wrote:
What are his domains? You should be able to extrapolate a lot about him by the magical powers offered to his followers.
In the link in the OP, it notes Knowledge, Magic, Travel, Weather, and his Portfolio is The seasons, secrets, wanderers.

Be an explorer to the hidden places of the world where secret things occur. Find the fabled Tower of Babel, the home of A famous wanderer, the site of a secret ritual of power used by a wizard a thousand years ago.

While one of his domains is Magic, it is not in his portfolio. Therefore, I see it as magic enabling the other aspects rather than being an aspect of his power.

Per the link in the OP, he is fey, so that can also be secret information to be had. I.e. learn the secrets of the fey in the untamed wilderness.

/cevah


Sounds like a soft core Shar to me. There is a ton of stuff on her worship and clergy out there.

Grand Lodge

Hmm. So the focus seasons and wanderers is a focus on change?

Change of scenery, change of season.


interesting... I guess the first question would be why is Ng so mysterious, whether he's very guarded about himself or whether his very nature makes it really difficult to find out about him/comprehend him. Sort of makes me wonder if Ng chose purview over some of his domains as camouflage for the domains he really cares about.

How you'd roleplay worshipping such a deity... Imitation and flattery and all that, I'd be inclined to conceal the actual rituals of worship within a larger show of worship. Take the full 1 hour of prayer at dawn to get daily cleric spells. The important part for Ng may only take 5 minutes, but without the 55 minutes of fluffy bs that surrounds it, the 5 minutes of actual worship/prayer mean nothing.

Ng's domains are weather and travel, maybe whenever weather changes during a journey you have to stop and bless the change of weather for a few minutes..... Maybe your character even has doubts that it's really necessary b/c Ng keeps that information from you; secrets within secrets, but you're loathe to follow that line of reasoning as maintaining the (possible?) fiction is clearly important to Ng. Let's say your character has severe doubts about the rain prayers and sunshine prayers, but your traveling companions complain about the constant delays whenever there are scattered clouds & showers... obviously your demeanor is severe when you explain that it is Ng's most sacred ritual.

Flip that on it's head, and say that as a player you WANT weather and travel to be the most important things to Ng. Well, obviously you really play up the knowledge and magic aspects, and continually pray for more knowledge about magic and for more magic about knowledge. You still do the rain/sunshine weather change prayers, but they are short little 10 second sing-song rhymes, and you treat them in-character as a good luck charm..... but you KNOW they are the foundation of your very existence, and your companions must never suspect that it is anymore than a silly OCD habit.

Grand Lodge

Those are some good ideas.

I tend to take a collection of ideas, and mix and match, when brainstorming.

If anyone has more ideas to add to this collection, I am more than glad to hear them.

Thank you all.

Sczarni

blackbloodtroll wrote:
Imbicatus wrote:
In a home game, you could make stuff up, but for PFS, you are limited to published lore.
I am not sure why PFS would disallow filling in the blanks. That makes no sense.

Fluff is not limited in PFS. There are no rules restricting how to roleplay your character.

Worship of a deity is intended to be diverse. Not all followers of any particular deity are required to roleplay the same. Even Paladins, the Lawful-Goodest of the Lawful-Good, can vary slightly in their worship and practices.

It sounds like you're still sticking to the themes that are published. Feel free to "fill in the blanks". Even if you happen to encounter another worshiper of the same deity, and his roleplay is different, that's totally fine.

Grand Lodge

I like the idea of a focus on change, as well as secrets.

Perhaps the idea, that without change, no new secrets can be discovered.

A prayer when a new secret is discovered, or when there is change in the seasons/scenery/etc.

A tenant of "seek and acquire", as it were.

Thoughts?

Sczarni

Show me what you come up with at PaizoCon!

I still owe you lunch =D

Grand Lodge

Nefreet wrote:

Show me what you come up with at PaizoCon!

I still owe you lunch =D

Indeed. I actually just had my very first PFS game, yesterday, with this PC.

I really had no time to do much of any RP, so I have time to establish the flavor of the worship.

I am going to Sakuracon here real soon, then Paizocon after that.

I will bring this PC, if it lives past 1st level(PFS is brutal!).

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