Henry Southgard wrote: Orfamay Quest wrote: Quirel wrote: jemstone wrote: You do realize that if this passed, you'd have to also get it going for most of Washington, Oregon, and California (to the aptly named Russian River) as well as a stretch of British Columbia? How far east did the Russians get? Because I wouldn't be terribly upset if we lost the western half of Washington. Isn't that where Paizo itself is? Good point.
Perhaps we could merely concede the Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia region?
You mean, the part that includes Redmond, where Paizo is located?
Orfamay Quest wrote: Henry Southgard wrote: Orfamay Quest wrote: Quirel wrote: jemstone wrote: You do realize that if this passed, you'd have to also get it going for most of Washington, Oregon, and California (to the aptly named Russian River) as well as a stretch of British Columbia? How far east did the Russians get? Because I wouldn't be terribly upset if we lost the western half of Washington. Isn't that where Paizo itself is? Good point.
Perhaps we could merely concede the Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia region?
You mean, the part that includes Redmond, where Paizo is located? Well, we don't have to give up ALL of King county, do we?
Petition to deport Yellowdingo to the Moon?
Mary Sue wrote: Petition to deport Yellowdingo to the Moon?
Denied. He keeps us all amused, as well as wondering where he left all of his brain cells.
Okay, so, Russia can get Washington, and long as Bellevue and Redmont stay in the US, in agreement?
Lucky, what are you doing up at this hour? I didn't know you were a fellow night-wanderer.
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zagnabbit wrote: thejeff wrote: If we're returning it to anyone, how about the Natives? Well the "Return to Russia" petition seems to state that Russia explored it before the Colonial Americans as a precedent for a claim, it would be hilarious if there were a petition to return the whole of North and South America to it's indigenous inhabitants.
Alaska actually has a fairly large Seccesion Movement, but they want independence, Not Putin. The economic ramifications of this sort of thing never really occur to knuckleheads that push for them.
Alaska, like many red states whose politics are dominated by Tea Party knuckleheads is a taker state. They receive considerably more in Federal Aid than what they give in taxes. Succession would put them in the same state as pre-annexation Texas (another taker state, btw) New Jersey on the other hand, has generally been the opposite, although the Sandy aid the state received last year has put us almost at par for that year.
LazarX wrote: zagnabbit wrote: thejeff wrote: If we're returning it to anyone, how about the Natives? Well the "Return to Russia" petition seems to state that Russia explored it before the Colonial Americans as a precedent for a claim, it would be hilarious if there were a petition to return the whole of North and South America to it's indigenous inhabitants.
Alaska actually has a fairly large Seccesion Movement, but they want independence, Not Putin. The economic ramifications of this sort of thing never really occur to knuckleheads that push for them.
Alaska, like many red states whose politics are dominated by Tea Party knuckleheads is a taker state. They receive considerably more in Federal Aid than what they give in taxes. Succession would put them in the same state as pre-annexation Texas (another taker state, btw) New Jersey on the other hand, has generally been the opposite, although the Sandy aid the state received last year has put us almost at par for that year. I thought Texas was one of the few Red non-taker states, largely due to the extraction industry.
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thejeff wrote: LazarX wrote: zagnabbit wrote: thejeff wrote: If we're returning it to anyone, how about the Natives? Well the "Return to Russia" petition seems to state that Russia explored it before the Colonial Americans as a precedent for a claim, it would be hilarious if there were a petition to return the whole of North and South America to it's indigenous inhabitants.
Alaska actually has a fairly large Seccesion Movement, but they want independence, Not Putin. The economic ramifications of this sort of thing never really occur to knuckleheads that push for them.
Alaska, like many red states whose politics are dominated by Tea Party knuckleheads is a taker state. They receive considerably more in Federal Aid than what they give in taxes. Succession would put them in the same state as pre-annexation Texas (another taker state, btw) New Jersey on the other hand, has generally been the opposite, although the Sandy aid the state received last year has put us almost at par for that year. I thought Texas was one of the few Red non-taker states, largely due to the extraction industry. You'd think that, but you'd be surprised. They get massive amounts of subsidies and pork spending. You might want to check out this chart of relative contributions per state.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_taxation_and_spending_by_state
Rank State Dollars (millions) Ratio to GSP[4]
Revenue[5] Spending[6] Net Revenue Spending Net
11 New York 201,168 151,719 49,449 16.7% 12.6% 4.1%
13 New Jersey 111,377 94,236 17,142 21.9% 18.6% 3.4%
31 Alaska 4,899 6,954 -2,055 9.4% 13.4% -4.0%
32 Texas 219,460 277,457 -57,997 15.7% 19.9% -4.2%
As you can see, Alaska and Texas are essentially subsidized by New York and New Jersey.
lucky7 wrote: Okay, so, Russia can get Washington, and long as Bellevue and Redmont stay in the US, in agreement? Russia gets WESTERN Washington, so long as Bellevue and Redmont stay in the US.
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Think Putin will let them keep their oil kickbacks?
LazarX wrote: zagnabbit wrote: thejeff wrote: If we're returning it to anyone, how about the Natives? Well the "Return to Russia" petition seems to state that Russia explored it before the Colonial Americans as a precedent for a claim, it would be hilarious if there were a petition to return the whole of North and South America to it's indigenous inhabitants.
Alaska actually has a fairly large Seccesion Movement, but they want independence, Not Putin. The economic ramifications of this sort of thing never really occur to knuckleheads that push for them.
Alaska, like many red states whose politics are dominated by Tea Party knuckleheads is a taker state. They receive considerably more in Federal Aid than what they give in taxes. Succession would put them in the same state as pre-annexation Texas (another taker state, btw) New Jersey on the other hand, has generally been the opposite, although the Sandy aid the state received last year has put us almost at par for that year. I'd like to see that data broken down into what sort of aid each state gets.
SnowJade wrote: Mary Sue wrote: Petition to deport Yellowdingo to the Moon?
Denied. He keeps us all amused, as well as wondering where he left all of his brain cells. They probably disintegrated when he/she got in blind love with politic.
@SJ: I'm a lich, and I can only craft 8 hours a day. It was SO boring before the 'net was invented.
@Henry: Agreed. Now all we need is a Russian to accept the treaty.
Given the amount of oil, timber, etc. that Alaska has to offer, as well as its strategic position, I'd think that Russia would jump at the chance to lay claim to it. Which is ironically hysterical because, QED, the Alaskans would find it a lot harder to secede from Russia than from the US.
...not that seceding from the US would be easy either.
You were supposed to laugh.
Ha ha, made you laugh! [/fangy_grin]
SnowJade wrote: Mary Sue wrote: Petition to deport Yellowdingo to the Moon?
Denied. He keeps us all amused, as well as wondering where he left all of his brain cells. In my optronic relay like all sensible droids.
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