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After being enlarged from medium size to large size, what is the new reach with a whip?
I think this should be asked in the form of a multiple choice question. The answers could be one of:
A) 15ft (no change)
B) 20ft
C) 25ft
D) 30ft
A poll would have been awesome here.
Avianfoo wrote: I think this should be asked in the form of a multiple choice question. The answers could be one of:
A) 15ft (no change)
B) 20ft
C) 25ft
D) 30ft
A poll would have been awesome here.
Lol yeah, lets just do this.
I think it's D.
How could it be A?
Reach Weapons wrote: Glaives, guisarmes, lances, longspears, ranseurs, and whips are reach weapons. A reach weapon is a melee weapon that allows its wielder to strike at targets that aren't adjacent to him. Most reach weapons double the wielder's natural reach, meaning that a typical Small or Medium wielder of such a weapon can attack a creature 10 feet away, but not a creature in an adjacent square. A typical Large character wielding a reach weapon of the appropriate size can attack a creature 15 or 20 feet away, but not adjacent creatures or creatures up to 10 feet away. Whip wrote: A whip deals no damage to any creature with an armor bonus of +1 or higher or a natural armor bonus of +3 or higher. The whip is treated as a melee weapon with 15-foot reach, though you don't threaten the area into which you can make an attack. In addition, unlike most other weapons with reach, you can use it against foes anywhere within your reach (including adjacent foes). On the surface it appears to be D)30ft, since that's a doubling.
I'm sort of inclined to say C)25ft though, even if it's not strictly RAW. (figuring it as "reach +5" --> "2(reach) +5")
Archaeik wrote: Reach Weapons wrote: Glaives, guisarmes, lances, longspears, ranseurs, and whips are reach weapons. A reach weapon is a melee weapon that allows its wielder to strike at targets that aren't adjacent to him. Most reach weapons double the wielder's natural reach, meaning that a typical Small or Medium wielder of such a weapon can attack a creature 10 feet away, but not a creature in an adjacent square. A typical Large character wielding a reach weapon of the appropriate size can attack a creature 15 or 20 feet away, but not adjacent creatures or creatures up to 10 feet away. Whip wrote: A whip deals no damage to any creature with an armor bonus of +1 or higher or a natural armor bonus of +3 or higher. The whip is treated as a melee weapon with 15-foot reach, though you don't threaten the area into which you can make an attack. In addition, unlike most other weapons with reach, you can use it against foes anywhere within your reach (including adjacent foes). On the surface it appears to be D)30ft, since that's a doubling.
I'm sort of inclined to say C)25ft though, even if it's not strictly RAW. (figuring it as "reach +5" --> "2(reach) +5") Ok, I suppose I can understand that interpretation.
Anyone else?
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I may have been a little obtuse in my first reply. There are quite a few discussion about this very topic.
The reasons for the different options are as follows:
A) 15ft - The whip has a specific reach specified in the weapon and there are no rules to change this specific reach. So no matter what the size, a whip will always reach 15ft.
B) 20ft - This one is what our friend the Balor uses. It's the whips normal reach + 5ft for being bigger.
C) 25ft - This one was a red herring. Ignore.
D) 30ft - A whip is a "triple reach" weapon. And your reach doubles when you grow in size. So the reach of the whip should likewise double to 30ft.
Is there a correct answer? I am unsure. Since by strict RAW, A is the answer. But B has a monster example and is how all the other weapons reaches are calculated. But on the third hand, most people (including JJ) find D to be correct.
Avianfoo wrote: I may have been a little obtuse in my first reply. There are quite a few discussion about this very topic.
The reasons for the different options are as follows:
A) 15ft - The whip has a specific reach specified in the weapon and there are no rules to change this specific reach. So no matter what the size, a whip will always reach 15ft.
B) 20ft - This one is what our friend the Balor uses. It's the whips normal reach + 5ft for being bigger.
C) 25ft - This one was a red herring. Ignore.
D) 30ft - A whip is a "triple reach" weapon. And your reach doubles when you grow in size. So the reach of the whip should likewise double to 30ft.
Is there a correct answer? I am unsure. Since by strict RAW, A is the answer. But B has a monster example and is how all the other weapons reaches are calculated. But on the third hand, most people (including JJ) find D to be correct.
Well, then I'll go with the majority rule. Thank you for the evaluation.
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