Hello,
So, I have a high-level Ninja/Monk who's looking for some late-game feats to take. Medusa's Wrath looks really interesting, and it's thematically appropriate for this Wing Chun kung-fu lady.
The question is, how to reliably trigger it? The best methods I've come up with so far are:
-Enforcer+Shatter Defenses... yeah, I don't have seven feats to get all that online.
-Staggering Critical+Sneaking Precision... same problem.
-spell storing weapon with frigid touch stored... not bad, but it has to be reloaded often and suffers from problems with SR and cold resistance.
-Stunning Fist... this is too unreliable.
Are there other methods which I have overlooked? I'm aiming for something reliable which I can conjure up myself when I want to really lay into an opponent.
-Matt
Dip one level of cleric or inquisitor to get Repose domain. Use Domain Strike as the first part of a flurry to deliver the staggered condition via Gentle Repose.
The most reliable I've been able to come up with is:
Add in the qigong archetype, swap in true strike for a Ki point, make a trip attempt with a seven bladed sword, victim becomes flat footed. Medusa strike with remaining attacks.
You can't do it every round, but flat footed should up your damage potential and let you max out the sneak attack.
Doesn't work so well against really big opponents though.
Also note frigid touch, per RAW, still works against enemies with cold resistance... or even immunity, tho many GMs might balk at that.
The spell storing option isn't bad if you want to bust it out as a rare trump card kind of thing. You can medusa's wrath the same round inflict the condition as petrus said.
Investigate the 7 branched? bladed? sword:
The shorter blades can be used to snag opponents’ clothing or armor, or can target weapons in order to disarm them. To snag armor or clothing, the attacker makes a trip attempt. If successful, the victim doesn’t fall prone, but instead is snagged and stumbles forward, leaving the victim flat-footed for the remainder of the round.
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Hello,
So, I have a high-level Ninja/Monk who's looking for some late-game feats to take. Medusa's Wrath looks really interesting, and it's thematically appropriate for this Wing Chun kung-fu lady.
The question is, how to reliably trigger it? The best methods I've come up with so far are:
-Enforcer+Shatter Defenses... yeah, I don't have seven feats to get all that online.
-Staggering Critical+Sneaking Precision... same problem.
-spell storing weapon with frigid touch stored... not bad, but it has to be reloaded often and suffers from problems with SR and cold resistance.
-Stunning Fist... this is too unreliable.Are there other methods which I have overlooked? I'm aiming for something reliable which I can conjure up myself when I want to really lay into an opponent.
-Matt
Abandon your foolish quest, mortal.
Abandon your foolish quest, mortal.
Whaaaa? You were there; victory in the Ruby Phoenix Tournament has immortalized her as the Queen of Blossoms!
-Matt
What else were you using your frees stunning fists for?
I had her trade out Stunning Fist as a part of her archetype. As I mentioned above, both Shatter Defenses and Stunning Fist are off the table.
-Matt
Dip one level of cleric or inquisitor to get Repose domain. Use Domain Strike as the first part of a flurry to deliver the staggered condition via Gentle Repose.
Hmm, are there other ways to acquite that domain power, or another power which imposes a relevant condition with a successful melee touch attack? I'm pretty sure she would make a terrible Cleric, Inquisitor, or Warpriest of Pharasma.
-Matt
Hmm, are there other ways to acquite that domain power, or another power which imposes a relevant condition with a successful melee touch attack? I'm pretty sure she would make a terrible Cleric, Inquisitor, or Warpriest of Pharasma.
How about of Tsukiyo, the Tian-Min deity of the moon, jade, and spirits? Seems Ninja-relevant.
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Hmm, are there other ways to acquite that domain power, or another power which imposes a relevant condition with a successful melee touch attack? I'm pretty sure she would make a terrible Cleric, Inquisitor, or Warpriest of Pharasma.How about of Tsukiyo, the Tian-Min deity of the moon, jade, and spirits? Seems Ninja-relevant.
Tsukiyo is absolutely perfect for ninja/paladins too. :)
If you take the Oread monk archetype "Student of Stone", you can have Stunning Fist (imposes Stun effect) and Elemental Fist with Shaitan Style feats (imposes Staggered effect) by the time you get Medusa's Wrath at level 10. Two chances on every Flurry to impose a condition that will proc Medusa's Wrath, keying off two different saving throws (Reflex and Fortitude). A fairly good chance to proc Wrath on every flurry.
This wouldn't work too well with your multiclass Ninja, though. It really requires a single class monk.
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Well, for a single attack against flat-footed, you could use a cracked purple prism Ioun stone, which holds a single spell level, to hold the Vanish spell. It lets you cast it, as long as you can get someone to fill it, on yourself to gain invisibility for 1 round.
Multiple of the stone, at 2K gp each, and a wand of Vanish to get them filled. UMD, or have it on someone's list, and you have a number of uses before they need to get refilled.
Or some way to get Greater Invisibility would give you multiple rounds of flat-footed enemy, unless they have some way to see invisible opponents or the Blindfight feat or equivalent.
How about of Tsukiyo, the Tian-Min deity of the moon, jade, and spirits? Seems Ninja-relevant.
Tsukiyo does sound interesting. I'd say she's more of an Ashava or Naderi worshipper over Tsukiyo. It would be hard for her to drop Shelyn, though.
But thank you. Keep em coming.
-Matt
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a good way i found for landing a real stunning fist is by using the cruel enchantment + enforcer to give them a -4 to save dc, then stack my save dc through the roof at 8th level i think i had a net save of 26 to my stunning fist.guided weapon enchant becomes a godsend if youre not playing in PFS.
other then that, i think you are better off ignoring medusas wrath
oh to clerify my suggestion: take stunning fist if you can, you basically would be treated as if you never lost stunning fist.
OOO catch off guard