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Here are a couple odd little questions ...
Say you have a character (a cavalier for example) who takes the Ride-By Attack feat:
Ride-By Attack (Combat)
While mounted and charging, you can move, strike at a foe, and then continue moving.
Prerequisites: Ride 1 rank, Mounted Combat.
Benefit: When you are mounted and use the charge action, you may move and attack as if with a standard charge and then move again (continuing the straight line of the charge). Your total movement for the round can't exceed double your mounted speed. You and your mount do not provoke an attack of opportunity from the opponent that you attack.
Now say said character acquires a flying mount with the Flyby Attack feat:
Flyby Attack
This creature can make an attack before and after it moves while flying.
Prerequisite: Fly speed.
Benefit: When flying, the creature can take a move action and another standard action at any point during the move. The creature cannot take a second move action during a round when it makes a flyby attack.
Normal: Without this feat, the creature takes a standard action either before or after its move.
So, when the character with Ride-By Attack is riding the flying mount with Flyby Attack, how do those two feats work together in combat? Do they compliment each other or work against one another?
As an aside, in really re-reading Flyby Attack feat, I think most people I know have been using the feat wrong! We always played that Flyby the Attack was kind of the aerial version of Spring Attack (i.e you can move both before and after the attack). Heck, even the name Flyby Attack sounds like it should be a feat allowing you to move (fly) at your foe, attack it as you fly by and then keep moving ... it's a flyby attack.
But it's actually the opposite - the creature can attack, move and then attack again. I guess the flying creature is attacking, flying around behind you and then attacking you again ... maybe the feat should be called Fly Behind Attack!
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No, Flyby is move-attack-move. You make the standard action at any point during your move so if you have an 80' fly speed you can move 20', attack, and move the remaining 60'.
See, that's what we thought too, but read the feat again ... it doesn't actually say that! The feat says the creature can take another standard action ... to make an attack before and after it moves
Flyby Attack
This creature can make an attack before and after it moves while flying.
Prerequisite: Fly speed.
Benefit: When flying, the creature can take a move action and another standard action at any point during the move. The creature cannot take a second move action during a round when it makes a flyby attack.
Normal: Without this feat, the creature takes a standard action either before or after its move.
No, Flyby is move-attack-move. You make the standard action at any point during your move so if you have an 80' fly speed you can move 20', attack, and move the remaining 60'.
See, that's what we thought too, but read the feat again ... it doesn't actually say that! The feat says the creature can take another standard action ... to make an attack before and after it moves
Flyby Attack
This creature can make an attack before and after it moves while flying.
Prerequisite: Fly speed.
Benefit: When flying, the creature can take a move action and another standard action at any point during the move. The creature cannot take a second move action during a round when it makes a flyby attack.
Normal: Without this feat, the creature takes a standard action either before or after its move.
Ignore the flavor text and focus on the benefit.
As an aside the flavor text is deceptively true. If you Move (A), attack (B), and move (C) then the creature is making an attack(B) before it moves (C) and after it moves (A).