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I saw this in the FAQ:
Sorcerer: Does a sorcerer with the sage bloodline (page 72) use her Int or Cha to determine uses per day of arcane bolt?
The sage sorcerer uses her Int to determine the number of daily uses of her bloodline powers, including arcane bolt. Therefore, whether arcane bolt lists Int or Cha, the sage sorcerer still uses her Int.
The bloodline power lists Cha because that's the standard terminology for sorcerer bloodlines (because all other sorcerers use Cha), and because there may be a way for a non-sorcerer to gain access to that bloodline power, in which case it should be based on Cha (like other sorcerer bloodline powers) instead of Int.
—Sean K Reynolds, 07/14/11
Does this mean that Eldritch Heritage is intended to work with Wildblooded then? I'm not aware of any other ability that allows Non-Sorcerers access to a bloodline power. I know people get nitpicky about Archetype but I always viewed Wildblooded as just a mutated Bloodline, therefore qualifying for Eldritch Heritage.
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That statement seems to imply it.
It does seem that way, I wonder if they didn't mention it works with Wildblooded because it's just assumed. Given that Subdomains and Variant Channeling are flagged as Cleric Archetypes (and usable by other Classes) like Wildblooded, it explains why they didn't call out Wildblooded in particular in Eldritch Heritage, because it's a Bloodline therefore applicable.
The reason they didn't call out wildblooded in eldritch heritage was because the author of eldritch heritage wasn't in charge of the sorcerer archetypes for that book, so he didn't know about wildblooded.
lol Talk about the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing, love it when that happens! Given SKR's response I guess I'll go with letting Eldritch Heritage apply to Wildblooded, that is until they update the FAQ indicating otherwise. Thanks.
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the FAQ doesn't imply anything about EH working with Wildblooded.
saying 'there may be some way to do X' doesn't imply that there IS some way to do X, much less that a specific feat (whose RAW contradicts working with EH) is that way. the 'there may be some way' wording is simply acknowledging that there MAY be (not IS) some way, not necessarily now or with existing feats, and not even necessarily in the future... although since we don't know what the future holds, there MAY be some exception printed in the future... paizo could publish "quandary's feat that grants wildblooded mutant bloodline powers".
the FAQ was dealing with the stated question, and Paizo chose to write that BL ability in exactly the same manner as every other ability because there was already an existing rule (ability score substitution) to make it work exactly how they want it to, so hard-wiring CHA into it doesn't result in any better of a functionality, and makes things more complicated for any POSSIBLE HYPOTHETICAL future rules features which interact with this area. it has nothing to do with Paizo PLANNING or desiring to change that, but it is simply good forward thinking rules editing, so that if and when they decide to publish something that does allow that sort of thing, there isn't an additional rules impediment in place. writing things so that there is less problems for potential future changes has no bearing on whether or not those potential future changes are desired or planned, albeit it might suggest that Paizo has not decided that forever and ever they will never ever release any rules item which allows non-wildblooded sorcerors to gain an ability from the sage mutant bloodline... but that is far from saying that such an ability does exist, much less is planned to exist.
regardless of the FAQ, how would you ever get it to work? EH requires you to have the skill focus feat for the associated class skill of the sorceror bloodline that you want to select. wildblooded mutant bloodline's don't have an associated class skill, so there's no way to meet that pre-req for the feat. wildblooded archetype sorcerors still have the normal sorceror bloodline, from which they continue to derive many features, from bloodline powers, to bonus spells, to class skill.
I suppose SKR could be precognitive or something, that's possible. j/k Sure, whatever isn't changed for the mutated bloodline (i.e. Sage) is used from the normal bloodline, it says that specifically in the rules (see below).
"When creating a wildblooded sorcerer, select an existing bloodline (such as one from the Core Rulebook, the Advanced Player’s Guide, or this
book), then select one of the following mutated bloodlines associated with that bloodline. Use the normal bloodline’s class skill, bonus spells, and bonus feats, and the mutated bloodline’s bloodline arcana. Use the normal bloodline’s bloodline powers, except when the mutated bloodline replaces one of those powers."
So in the above example SKR mentions Sage, so if you wanted to do Eldritch Heritage with that you'd get a Skill Focus in any Knowledge. *shrug* Seems pretty straight forward in that regard. As to whether SKR is speaking of future feats or existing ones, no clue. I'm assuming it's current and he was in fact speaking of Eldritch Heritage, but as you said he might be mentioning a possible future ability.
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