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Hello,
I've done a little search before opening this thread. My question is quite different, if there is a similar thread, I apologise.
So I've decided to have a cleric/paladin multiclassing build. I want to have Extra Channel feat. I have to choose, extra channel for Paladin or Cleric? Because of the amount of cleric levels and healing power, I chose cleric.
My question is; Extra Channel says,
"Special: If a paladin with the ability to channel positive energy takes this feat, she can use lay on hands four additional times a day, but only to channel positive energy."
Do I get extra Lay on Hands because I have Paladin levels, even though I chose "Extra Channel: Cleric"?
The channel ability stacks for both classes.
So if you have a 5th level cleric you have a 3d6 channel and a 2d6 channel from the 4th level paladin, when you decide to channel you'll have a 5d6 channel.
If your Cleric/Paladin takes the feat Extra Channel, you'll simply get two additional uses of Channel. If you wanted more of the Lay on Hands ability just grab the feat Extra Lay on Hands.
I have a question now though;
Must a Cleric 5/Paladin 4 still expend Lay on Hands in order to make a 5d6 channel or does he not have to because of the levels in cleric?
If he does have to spend LoHs to channel, can he choose not to and only do a 3d6 channel?
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The channel ability stacks for both classes.
So if you have a 5th level cleric you have a 3d6 channel and a 2d6 channel from the 4th level paladin, when you decide to channel you'll have a 5d6 channel.
If your Cleric/Paladin takes the feat Extra Channel, you'll simply get two additional uses of Channel. If you wanted more of the Lay on Hands ability just grab the feat Extra Lay on Hands.
I have a question now though;
Must a Cleric 5/Paladin 4 still expend Lay on Hands in order to make a 5d6 channel or does he not have to because of the levels in cleric?
If he does have to spend LoHs to channel, can he choose not to and only do a 3d6 channel?
Actually, channel energy does NOT stack for multiple classes.
SourceI would think the Extra Channel feat would only apply to the Cleric channel energy, but the way it's written it could be argued that it would in fact apply to both (giving you two more uses of Channel Energy and four more uses of Lay on Hands that can only be used to channel energy two more times).
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Yep, you have to choose either Cleric or Paladin, as I've stated on my first post.
"she can use lay on hands four additional times a day, but only to channel positive energy."
Does this mean, either
1) I can't harm an undead by those extra LOHs
2) I can't heal anyone by those extra LOHs
Second option is kinda unreasonable though, first one makes more sense.
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Channel Energy: If I have this ability from more than one class, do they stack?
No—unless an ability specifically says it stacks with similar abilities (such as an assassin's sneak attack), or adds in some way based on the character's total class levels (such as improved uncanny dodge), the abilities don't stack and you have to use them separately. Therefore, cleric channeling doesn't stack with paladin channeling, necromancer channeling, oracle of life channeling, and so on.
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Yep, you have to choose either Cleric or Paladin, as I've stated on my first post.
"she can use lay on hands four additional times a day, but only to channel positive energy."
Does this mean, either
1) I can't harm an undead by those extra LOHs
2) I can't heal anyone by those extra LOHsSecond option is kinda unreasonable though, first one makes more sense.
I think it means both of those. Essentially, what it's saying is that you can use those four extra uses of lay on hands ONLY to channel positive energy (twice), not to use the Lay on Hands action in any way.
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Extra Channel (page 124): If I take this feat and I have more than one class with the ability to channel energy, do I have to assign the extra uses to a particular class when I choose the feat? No. In effect, the feat gives you two "floating" uses of channel energy per day, and you can use them with any appropriate class you have which grants the channel energy ability. For example, if you're a cleric/necromancer, each day you could use 1 channel as a cleric and 1 as a necromancer, 2 as a cleric and 0 as a necromancer, or 0 as a cleric and 2 as a necromancer. Note that this does not give you an extra two uses of channel energy for *each* class that grants it—the feat gives you exactly two extra uses per day.
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I think it means both of those. Essentially, what it's saying is that you can use those four extra uses of lay on hands ONLY to channel positive energy (twice), not to use the Lay on Hands action in any way.
Then what's the point by giving four additional LOHs on Extra Channel? If they can be used as only two channels. I don't get it.
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If you're a paladin 5 and a cleric 4 with a 16 charisma, you have 2d6 channels 6 times per day as a cleric and 3d6 channels 2 times per day maximum as a paladin. If you have the Extra Channel feat it gives you 2 extra channels per day total. You can have one extra 2d6 cleric channel and one extra 3d6 paladin channel, or 2 cleric, or 2 paladin.
The paladin channels by using 2 uses of Lay on Hands per channel, so to make Extra Channel fair it has to give 2 extra Lay on Hands per use of channel you put towards the paladin, only usable with Channel Energy.
It makes sense to take this feat in the aforementioned example because it lets you choose to have 2 extra channels with your most option that gives the most d6s. If you were instead 4 paladin and 7 cleric, you'd obviously want those extra two channels to go towards the cleric's because it does 4d6 compared to the paladin's 2d6.