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lynora wrote:

Thanks a bunch for the suggestions guys. I will see how many of these I can track down. :)

Freehold, your interpretation of Gundam Wing and mine are a bit different I think. It has been a few years since I watched it though, so I'll look at it again before I show it to the kidlet. It might still be a bit old for him. It's always a fine line to walk trying to figure out what is and is not age appropriate for him to watch.

that's more than fair. Keep in mind my experience with wing is from fansubs, sure things were cleaned up for the dub and they(gundam boys) were made akin to freedom fighters. Also, as this is a young kid, I would also suggest g gundam, as it was also made for a young audience.


only for the hardcore.

Can't find the one from the 2000s!


Freehold DM wrote:
lynora wrote:

Thanks a bunch for the suggestions guys. I will see how many of these I can track down. :)

Freehold, your interpretation of Gundam Wing and mine are a bit different I think. It has been a few years since I watched it though, so I'll look at it again before I show it to the kidlet. It might still be a bit old for him. It's always a fine line to walk trying to figure out what is and is not age appropriate for him to watch.
that's more than fair. Keep in mind my experience with wing is from fansubs, sure things were cleaned up for the dub and they(gundam boys) were made akin to freedom fighters. Also, as this is a young kid, I would also suggest g gundam, as it was also made for a young audience.

G gundam...got it. I will look for that one.

Yeah, thinking about it more he might not be ready for gundam wing. It's hard to figure out who the good guys are since there really aren't any. And at ten he still likes his morality in black and white. :)

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Did anyone else snag all of the jaeger cards? The theater I went to had baseball card-style tradable cards with stats for the different jaegers. Apparently, there was a Japanese jaeger that either wasn't in the movie or was seen so briefly they never called it out.

This was the first movie I've ever seen at IMAX and I've got to say, if you've never been to an IMAX theater and you're not lucky enough to live near a Cinerama, this is the movie to watch on that screen. Just pay the extra $10 or whatever it is and bask in the glory of giant robot on kaiju mayhem. Besides, the more money this thing makes, the better the odds we get that Mountains of Madness movie. It's like a kickstarter.

Based on this, I'm pretty pumped for next year's Godzilla reboot. Legendary, who also put out Pacific Rim, hired Gareth Edwards (director/writer of Monsters) to direct Godzilla, and it's going to feature multiple kaiju.


Velcro Zipper wrote:

Did anyone else snag all of the jaeger cards? The theater I went to had baseball card-style tradable cards with stats for the different jaegers. Apparently, there was a Japanese jaeger that either wasn't in the movie or was seen so briefly they never called it out.

This was the first movie I've ever seen at IMAX and I've got to say, if you've never been to an IMAX theater and you're not lucky enough to live near a Cinerama, this is the movie to watch on that screen. Just pay the extra $10 or whatever it is and bask in the glory of giant robot on kaiju mayhem. Besides, the more money this thing makes, the better the odds we get that Mountains of Madness movie. It's like a kickstarter.

Based on this, I'm pretty pumped for next year's Godzilla reboot. Legendary, who also put out Pacific Rim hired Gareth Edwards (director/writer of Monsters) to direct Godzilla, and it's going to feature multiple kaiju.

holy. S@#~.

I will do anything for a full set of those cards. I would kiss joss whedon full on the lips while eating alton browns finest cookery and post about it on Facebook. I am off in search of these cards now.


Velcro Zipper wrote:
Based on this, I'm pretty pumped for next year's Godzilla reboot. Legendary, who also put out Pacific Rim hired Gareth Edwards (director/writer of Monsters) to direct Godzilla, and it's going to feature multiple kaiju.

This is the first I've heard of this. YAY!


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Freehold, thats the song that plays when Gunbuster is launched for the first time...
I think that's the name it's under on you tube.


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If you follow the pacific rim facebook page they've had pics/designs up for all the jaegers...


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Coyote Tango was the Japanese Jaeger.
Its the one Stacker Pentecost is shown climbing out of after he saves Mako.


Man, that was awesome. Probably the best movie of the summer.


Saw it.

$%#@^ yes. My childhood cries in JOY.
Would happily see it again. Will buy the Director's Cut.

Freehold DM: DANGAIO BEAM! Boost Knuckle!(the most ineffectual attack ever in the history of robot anime.)


Rathendar wrote:

Saw it.

$%#@^ yes. My childhood cries in JOY.
Would happily see it again. Will buy the Director's Cut.

Freehold DM: DANGAIO BEAM! Boost Knuckle!(the most ineffectual attack ever in the history of robot anime.)

lies! They were plenty powerful in the opening!


Freehold DM wrote:
Rathendar wrote:

Saw it.

$%#@^ yes. My childhood cries in JOY.
Would happily see it again. Will buy the Director's Cut.

Freehold DM: DANGAIO BEAM! Boost Knuckle!(the most ineffectual attack ever in the history of robot anime.)

lies! They were plenty powerful in the opening!

LOL yes that is true. Boost Knuckle never actually succeeded in the episodes though. It felt more like a "the badguy proves he is tough because Boost Knuckle is ineffective against him."


Just stopped by the greatest comic book store on the face of the earth where they had only two of the cards but ALL OF THE MINI POSTERS!!!!


Rathendar wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Rathendar wrote:

Saw it.

$%#@^ yes. My childhood cries in JOY.
Would happily see it again. Will buy the Director's Cut.

Freehold DM: DANGAIO BEAM! Boost Knuckle!(the most ineffectual attack ever in the history of robot anime.)

lies! They were plenty powerful in the opening!
LOL yes that is true. Boost Knuckle never actually succeeded in the episodes though. It felt more like a "the badguy proves he is tough because Boost Knuckle is ineffective against him."

well you need to gauge your enemies somehow...


Well enjoy the movie, it looks like it is going to be a bit of a financial disappointment.

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Whats up with movies this summer? nobody is going to anything.


Ok, saw it. My initial thoughts.

Spoiler:
The movie wasn't what I was expecting. I was expecting to see more of the initial attacks and the development of the Jaeger program. I mean the played the scene of the attack on the Golden Gate bridge and the jets getting destroyed, you'd think that would be a bigger part. Nope. I realize this is mostly my fault, it just was disappointing. I wanted to see the building up for the Kaiju War, not the end of it. My thought is they wanted to avoid claims of it just setting up for a sequel and they didn't really have a good explanation of how the Jaeger program made sense (Jaeger versus sea wall, sure, Jaegar versus weapon equipment on aircraft, not so much).

The feel of the story never really settled. Everytime Idris Elba was on screen it felt like it wanted to be taken seriously. Anytime Charlie Day was on screen it felt like they didn't want to be. Humor is great, but they should take a lesson from Tony Stark in Iron Man/Avengers on how to do it without taking you out of the movie.

The wrong person was the main character. Mako should have really been who the movie was about, her character was much more interesting. Most main characters heroes are more interesting if the audience sees them go from inexperience and unsure of themselves to capable and confident.

I would have liked more done with the other Jaegar teams, especially the Russians. I would have especially liked to see more women Jaegar drivers developed in the story. Too much sausage-fest.


pres man wrote:
Well enjoy the movie, it looks like it is going to be a bit of a financial disappointment.

It's not out of theatres yet. We also need to see what toy, game, and dvd sales are gonna be like. I also want model kits!


Freehold DM wrote:
pres man wrote:
Well enjoy the movie, it looks like it is going to be a bit of a financial disappointment.
It's not out of theatres yet. We also need to see what toy, game, and dvd sales are gonna be like. I also want model kits!

True, but most movies if they don't make a big splash that first weekend tend to fade quickly. They don't usually get more popular, but instead less.


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Saw this film last weekend rather than this week (realised I was at Paizocon UK this weekend so something had to be done :-).

I loved it, with (minor) caveats.

I got the see it in Vue Xtreme 3D, which was definitely the best way to see it, outside proper IMAX.

The 3D was completely appropriate and helped immerse the viewer in the action. I never thought any detail was lost in darkness despite 3D being dimmer with glasses.

The plot was good, not amazing, but good. It took a bit to get past all the introductions and set up stuff (first fight involving Gipsy Danger notwithstanding) before really getting going, but I wasn't bored. It increased the believability of the setting to be honest - we knew the world was on a precipice of doom. Once we got to the HK Shatterdome everything was in top gear and stayed there. Didn't notice the time passing at all.

All of the characters were believable and had a reason to be in the film, and if they weren't fully three dimensional (that's the SFX), they didn't come across as cardboard cut-outs either. The weakest link I'm afraid is Raleigh - he was a bit predictable to be honest, but offsetting that were the fabulous Stacker Pentecost and Newton Geiszler, the mad scientist - these great characters came from great performances by Idris Elba and whoever that other guy was. Charlie Hunnam wasn't bad in this, but what he had to work with was a little bit formulaic unfortunately (although the Drift sequences and associated psychology was pretty cool/interesting/evocative).

After which, we get to the real star of this picture and it's the CGI-heavy action scenes. Some might take that as a pretty harsh criticism, but it's anything but. I have not grinned ear-to-ear like I did during this film since Avengers Assembled. And AA is my favourite film of ALL TIME.

The scenes thrilled, surprised, delighted, entertained and AMAZED without exception. Standout (spoilerific) sequences (from the first major battle only!) include:

Crimson Typhoon

Spoiler:
using rocket boosters to perform an overhead 180 spin whilst grappling a kaiju, then flinging the monster across the sea.

Cherno Alpha
Spoiler:
taking unbelievable amounts of punishment before finally succumbing to the onslaught of 2 kaiju.

Gipsy Danger
Spoiler:
running
Spoiler:
punching
Spoiler:
jumping
Spoiler:
tanker-wielding
Spoiler:
changing it's hands to plasma guns
Spoiler:
cartwheeling through the air and still landing upright
Spoiler:
"making sure"...

A kaiju
Spoiler:
with wings

American football
Spoiler:
touchdown!

There's more, obviously

Spoiler:
hidden sword
Spoiler:
another hidden sword
but you get the idea.

I've taken too long with this so I'll leave it there.

tl;dr version: If thinking about giant robots makes you smile, go see it, you will want to see it again and then you'll buy the Blu-ray. Probably on 3D.


Rathendar wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Rathendar wrote:

Saw it.

$%#@^ yes. My childhood cries in JOY.
Would happily see it again. Will buy the Director's Cut.

Freehold DM: DANGAIO BEAM! Boost Knuckle!(the most ineffectual attack ever in the history of robot anime.)

lies! They were plenty powerful in the opening!
LOL yes that is true. Boost Knuckle never actually succeeded in the episodes though. It felt more like a "the badguy proves he is tough because Boost Knuckle is ineffective against him."

So it's the Lt. Worf of special attacks?

Man, you guys are making me want to figure out a way to get out to the theater to see this one. (I haven't made it out to a single movie yet this year.)


pres man wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
pres man wrote:
Well enjoy the movie, it looks like it is going to be a bit of a financial disappointment.
It's not out of theatres yet. We also need to see what toy, game, and dvd sales are gonna be like. I also want model kits!
True, but most movies if they don't make a big splash that first weekend tend to fade quickly. They don't usually get more popular, but instead less.

*rolls eyes* It's not even out all around the world yet.


I think word of mouth will help this movie. We'll see.


Fabius Maximus wrote:
pres man wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
pres man wrote:
Well enjoy the movie, it looks like it is going to be a bit of a financial disappointment.
It's not out of theatres yet. We also need to see what toy, game, and dvd sales are gonna be like. I also want model kits!
True, but most movies if they don't make a big splash that first weekend tend to fade quickly. They don't usually get more popular, but instead less.
*rolls eyes* It's not even out all around the world yet.

I thought those members were a bit off.


Freehold DM wrote:
Fabius Maximus wrote:
pres man wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
pres man wrote:
Well enjoy the movie, it looks like it is going to be a bit of a financial disappointment.
It's not out of theatres yet. We also need to see what toy, game, and dvd sales are gonna be like. I also want model kits!
True, but most movies if they don't make a big splash that first weekend tend to fade quickly. They don't usually get more popular, but instead less.
*rolls eyes* It's not even out all around the world yet.
I thought those members were a bit off.

*ahem* I meant numbers...


Lynora, you might want to check out Mazinger Z. However, I would look for the Japanese or South American version of it since the American version got... ~tries to think of a polite term~ butchered and shortened. I loved watching it as a kid and I even learned Spanish to understand it (I was in South America at the time). Granted, the last time I watched it was over 30 years ago, and yet I still remember enjoying it.


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WOW!!! That movie was amazing.

Easily the best movie of the summer so far. I loved it.

I hope it does well woth world wide box office. I want my sequel!


It'll be interesting to see how well the film does in Japan (it doesn't arrive until 9 August). It's getting lots of advance press over there and people Hideo Kojima bigging it up will likely draw a lot of interest. Success in Japan won't save a film if it's tanking elsewhere of course, but it can certainly help (especially if the break-even margin is tiny).

One problem with the film's prospects (middling so far) seems to be launching in a busy season: too many big kids films around, too many comedies (there's a lot of excitement here in the UK for THE WORLD'S END, out tomorrow) and too many blockbusters (with MAN OF STEEL mopping up a lot of casual viewers a few weeks back). The name draw is also problematic: I think the studio was banking on Del Toro's name too much, and Del Toro's name means nothing to the average cinema-goer (there's very few directors who do, to be honest). Also, they seem to have failed to mobilise the same people who went to see TRANSFORMERS, indicating people are either bored of giant robot movies or only interested if it ties in with some kid's show they watched almost 30 years ago.

I think the film will probably break even at the box office and then do very well on DVD and Blu-Ray. A late surge cannot be ruled out, and the word of mouth on the film has been excellent, but it's very unusual for that to happen in the cinema. Del Toro and Legendary both seem keen to do the sequel, but that's only realistic if the movie makes a substantial amount more than its budget (twice the budget is usually the golden figure, since that will also cover marketing).

Hopefully I should be seeing it tomorrow :)

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Saw it yesterday.

I thought it was fun but too much fighting cut the time to really explore some of the cool ideas (cross-planar hive-mind communication!)

After watching, I was chatting with my fiance and realised the film this really reminded me of: Top Gun.

I thought Top Gun was better though: I cared more about those characters.

I can totally see why the Mecha / Kaiju fans on here are geeking out. It's your victory dance.

I thought the monsters were pretty cool but CGI robots clubbing things got boring pretty fast. The 'we've got an app for that' path to victory didn't thrill me either: glad at the end that some true grit was applied.

I enjoyed it though, lots of neat ideas, incidental detail and mini character arcs. Perlman's character was great too.


GeraintElberion wrote:

I thought Top Gun was better though: I cared more about those characters.

That is genuinely funny.


Seen it yesterday (local preview). And while I dislike the robot genre, I love Kaiju. Victory dance, yes !

Original version, undubbed and the cinema was still packed at 30°C outside and with a rare balmy night..... And the only major blockbuster this summer where the audience went into "spontaneous applaude" mode, despite the hectic 3D scenes which are usually a major turn-off. Beat "Iron Man 3", trashed "ST -Into Darkness" and even comparing it to Man of Steel seems like an insult (Which barely lasted a week around here, anyways), mostly due to the skills of delToro, who seemed like a major draw to the audience (as the discussions in the Lounge before and after showed ).

My brother who tagged along simply called it "the only thing worth watching this summer" and "almost up to Hellboy-standards". Heck, even the girls/wifes who had tagged along were pretty much enchanted

so.. thanks for having delToro put in charge of it and for once making it worth to pay a bunch of Euros each . Best call for director this summer.
Could someone now hustle him back to the "mountains of Madness" set ? He should be quite up to speed for some glorious otherworldy monsters^^

*asks nicely for a Shoggoth-Kaiju*


vikingson wrote:

Seen it yesterday (local preview). And while I dislike the robot genre, I love Kaiju. Victory dance, yes !

Original version, undubbed and the cinema was still packed at 30°C outside and with a rare balmy night..... And the only major blockbuster this summer where the audience went into "spontaneous applaude" mode, despite the hectic 3D scenes which are usually a major turn-off. Beat "Iron Man 3", trashed "ST -Into Darkness" and even comparing it to Man of Steel seems like an insult (Which barely lasted a week around here, anyways), mostly due to the skills of delToro, who seemed like a major draw to the audience (as the discussions in the Lounge before and after showed ).

My brother who tagged along simply called it "the only thing worth watching this summer" and "almost up to Hellboy-standards". Heck, even the girls/wifes who had tagged along were pretty much enchanted

so.. thanks for having delToro put in charge of it and for once making it worth to pay a bunch of Euros each . Best call for director this summer.
Could someone now hustle him back to the "mountains of Madness" set ? He should be quite up to speed for some glorious otherworldy monsters^^

*asks nicely for a Shoggoth-Kaiju*

it seems we are fated to do battle, you robot hater. More seriously, I'm glad you enjoyed.


Freehold DM wrote:
vikingson wrote:

Seen it yesterday (local preview). And while I dislike the robot genre, I love Kaiju. Victory dance, yes !

...
*asks nicely for a Shoggoth-Kaiju*
it seems we are fated to do battle, you robot hater. More seriously, I'm glad you enjoyed.

Come, face my acid breath ! *looks for the XXL-power mints*


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make your own jaeger!

Shadow Lodge

HOLY S&~*.

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watched it, loved it, hope it does better in the coming weeks

also, this film is 90% cthulhutech


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Tinkergoth wrote:
I guess I just don't feel quite as strongly about it as you. I don't really see the need for them to be forgiven at all, given that it was a different time, and most anime to come over through the 80s and early 90s was pretty strongly reworked anyway.

Harmony Gold are pieces of s***. Not for what they did with the Frankenstein monster which is Robotech, but for litigating against the distribution of any Macross materials outside of the Japanese market. Since their corporate overlords at Hasbro have more money for expensive lawyers, they can stop and have stopped Macross of getting international recognition.

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Saw it.
I couldn't talk from awesomeness. The movie is rule of cool personified.


Saw it a third time tonight. Yep, still just as awesome. :)


Evil Lincoln wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Prometheus: regardless of what any one person might think about the movie, the studio's apparently greenlit the sequel since Prometheus did quite well at the box office.
The presumed sequel they teed up in the first film. Egads, I hate it when (most) films do that...

See her travels to the Engineers?


Painlord wrote:

I saw it this morning. It was pretty okay.

I don't think it was really based on a true story. Thus, I think they used some CGI or claymation or something for the effects.

Also, when we get the tech for robots? They should use them to land on Mars or something useful. (Not that fighting the aliens isn't important.)

From the conversations I have heard is that the only reason we don't have these mechs now is money.

Before it was that they would be too heavy/week and would collapse on their own weight with the materials available.

I heard recently that there has been improvements in metal material tech.

Here

So I don't think giant robots really are all that far off, just like the space station from 2001 probably could have been made in 2001, but we just don't have the money. With this dire of a situation, money isn't an issue.


Saw it tonight...I preference this by saying I am not a fan of the big mecha stories to start with. So yes I do think Iron Man 3 is a much better film...and War World Z was a better film.

But I enjoyed this movie. It was very good. I just can't get into Giant mecha for a number of reasons I won't go in here. But it was defintly a fun movie.

Also personaly I think if they do a sequal it should focus on a certain character looking for his shoe...and the character who has his shoe...I think such a movie would be hilarious.


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I made a Jaeger!!
Named it "SABER VIXEN" ... aww yeah.

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John Kretzer wrote:

Saw it tonight...I preference this by saying I am not a fan of the big mecha stories to start with. So yes I do think Iron Man 3 is a much better film...and War World Z was a better film.

But I enjoyed this movie. It was very good. I just can't get into Giant mecha for a number of reasons I won't go in here. But it was defintly a fun movie.

Also personaly I think if they do a sequal it should focus on a certain character looking for his shoe...and the character who has his shoe...I think such a movie would be hilarious.

Ok, i get what you say.

But world war z? The only reason i didn't leave the cinema was because i payed a lot of money for the ticket.

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Freehold DM wrote:
make your own jaeger!

"OH GOD THERE ARE WORDS BEHIND ME" is my favorite so far, along with the Nation Pun crew. :D

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John Kretzer wrote:

Saw it tonight...I preference this by saying I am not a fan of the big mecha stories to start with. So yes I do think Iron Man 3 is a much better film...and War World Z was a better film.

But I enjoyed this movie. It was very good. I just can't get into Giant mecha for a number of reasons I won't go in here. But it was defintly a fun movie.

Also personaly I think if they do a sequal it should focus on a certain character looking for his shoe...and the character who has his shoe...I think such a movie would be hilarious.

pedantry:
'Preface', rather than 'preference'.

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Hama wrote:
John Kretzer wrote:

Saw it tonight...I preference this by saying I am not a fan of the big mecha stories to start with. So yes I do think Iron Man 3 is a much better film...and War World Z was a better film.

But I enjoyed this movie. It was very good. I just can't get into Giant mecha for a number of reasons I won't go in here. But it was defintly a fun movie.

Also personaly I think if they do a sequal it should focus on a certain character looking for his shoe...and the character who has his shoe...I think such a movie would be hilarious.

Ok, i get what you say.

But world war z? The only reason i didn't leave the cinema was because i payed a lot of money for the ticket.

you gotta be kidding me. Those movies were awful.


Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:
So I don't think giant robots really are all that far off, just like the space station from 2001 probably could have been made in 2001, but we just don't have the money. With this dire of a situation, money isn't an issue.

Which really makes me wonder where I can buy one of these nifty "no more pulse" plasma guns^^

Same as wondering why bunker breaking bombs would no pierce nicely through a Kaiju's hide^^

Or some form of "Drift"-technology so I'd improve my understanding of the female brain !

Oh wait, fiction ! And yes, I still love this movie !

PS : World War Z = Sleeping pill overdose by theater screen


vikingson wrote:
Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:
So I don't think giant robots really are all that far off, just like the space station from 2001 probably could have been made in 2001, but we just don't have the money. With this dire of a situation, money isn't an issue.

Which really makes me wonder where I can buy one of these nifty "no more pulse" plasma guns^^

Same as wondering why bunker breaking bombs would no pierce nicely through a Kaiju's hide^^

Or some form of "Drift"-technology so I'd improve my understanding of the female brain !

Oh wait, fiction ! And yes, I still love this movie !

PS : World War Z = Sleeping pill overdose by theater screen

if you get a jaegern, then I get one, because this planet ain't big enough for the both of us.

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