Bestiary 3 Player Races

[Mavrickindigo]

In the beginning of the Inner Sea World Guide, there's a section that details what monster races are comparable to core races. I like giving people a wide variety of character choices in the game, so I want to know if there are any monsters in Bestiary 3 that would be comparable to a player race.

[Drejk]

Catfolk, Ratfolk, Suli, Vishkanya, unless I missed something. All are humanoids (or humanoid-shaped Native Outsider in case of Suli) with no racial HD that are comparable in power level to core races.

[MMCJawa]

Vanara as well

[Doctor Carrion]

If you're a furry, rejoice. Otherwise, meh.... The Bestiary III was kind of a flop for player races.

[3.5 Loyalist]

For some shameless self-advertising, here are the races for a game I run in a so far small world of my own creation.

Humans from (about) eleven cultures. From tribes, to collapsed regions, to feudal territories to free peoples.
Under-realm Ibixian: warlike goatfolk. +1 ECL
Boggard: medium frog. +2 ECL
Small lizardfolk.
Burly medium-sized lizardfolk. +1 ECL
Young otyugh: tentacled eating machine. +2 ECL
Thorn: small fey rogues +1 ECL
Woodling: plant spellcasters. +2 ECL
Wood woad: plant guardian/stalkers. +2 ECL
Ratling: medium rat. +1 ECL
Centaur or southern zebrataur. +2 ECL

It's a not Tolkien game, so no elves, dwarves or halflings. Still some fey though, there are gremlins.

[Gnomezrule]

LOL young otyugh ew.

[Mavrickindigo]

So the Catfolk, Ratfolk, Suli, Vishkanya, and Varana are comparable to the core races, and aren't overpowered like say, Drow or Aasimar or the like? I'm running a game in Golarion and the list on page 10-11 looks like this

Comparable to Core
Goblin
Hobgoblin
Kobold
Orc
Tengu

Not comparable
Drow
Duergar
Gillmen
Merfolk
Strix
Svirfneblin
All native Outsiders

So again I ask, Catfolk, Ratfolk, Suli, Vishkanya and Varana are closer to goblins and kobolds, or should I put them in the "do not play" list with Duergar and Gillmen?

[MMCJawa]

well based solely on the advance race guide list (which I just found), and given that the statted point value for the core races is 11 or less:

Vanara: 8
Vishkanya: 13
Suli: 16
Ratfolk: 9
Catfolk: 9

So depending on how strict you are, The Suli and maybe the Vishkanya (Tengu are 13) would be too powerful, but the others should be fine.

[3.5 Loyalist]

Gnomezrule wrote:

LOL young otyugh ew.

Yeah, medium sized otyugh. They sure are disgusting, but handy to have in a party. Great in close of course, but not invincible (one guy got his otyugh char killed).

Eat whatever you want, you adventure for food = otyugh adventurer.