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Please check out this video for details.

Link provided http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=52mOWoJ9bho

Can you build the ultimate character will you except the challenge.

My name is Sean Connors aka theoutsiders68 on YouTube please take part and happy gaming.


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Now I will watch the video.

PS:I would suggest posting the rules here also. That way people don't have to watch the video if they forget something.,


Sean, first let me say its nice to see you back making videos. I was pleasantly surprised to see in my sub box a new outsiders after a couple months absence. I have learned quite abit from your gm tips videos as well as others from the RPG Brigade.

Im still fairly new to ttrpgs but after work tonight i will draw up a combatant and hopefully not get brained in the first round.

One thing you didnt mention, are animal companions allowed for the druid, ranger, and cleric? Anyway, hope you get a good turnout.

P.s. for those that dont know there is a pretty strong rpg community on youtube full of good people and good advice. I recommend checking it out.


What are the rules of engagement?

Initiative and go, or do you have prep/buff time before each fight?


Cyberwolf2xs wrote:

What are the rules of engagement?

Initiative and go, or do you have prep/buff time before each fight?

I will run the combat as a video.

It will be iniative and go.

Rules will be as the core book.

I will allow some time between fights how much I am still debating so characters being able to heal themselves will be useful.

There will be no spells cast before a fight starts to keep things honest but after that anything goes.

Equipment is for a fith level character as per the core book.

Any further questions email me Sean.connors68@me.com

Hope you decide to submit a character and maybe do a video about them come on pathfinder fans show me how ingenious you can be.

Happy gaming Sean


outsiders68 wrote:
Cyberwolf2xs wrote:

What are the rules of engagement?

Initiative and go, or do you have prep/buff time before each fight?

I will run the combat as a video.

It will be iniative and go.

Rules will be as the core book.

I will allow some time between fights how much I am still debating so characters being able to heal themselves will be useful.

There will be no spells cast before a fight starts to keep things honest but after that anything goes.

Equipment is for a fith level character as per the core book.

Any further questions email me Sean.connors68@me.com

Hope you decide to submit a character and maybe do a video about them come on pathfinder fans show me how ingenious you can be.

Happy gaming Sean

Forgot to add no familiars!


Just an update have several people committing but need more.

Love to see more of the community show me what they can do.


I think each fight should be at full power if the result is to determine the best build. If I happen to draw a difficult opponent, and the other build wins the next fight because of that, then luck has a much larger effect than many would like.

Grand Lodge

This sounds awesome and you will be receiving a character from me in the next couple days

Sovereign Court

I think you should probably allow hour/level buffs - barring a sneak attack in the middle of the night, most high-level mages will never be in battle without Mage Armor and Overland Flight.

If you're testing for the best build for a given fight, you should start everyone with full spells/hp/etc.

Dark Archive

Must make character.

Liberty's Edge

You mention no familiars. I assume that includes animal companions, but does it include summoned creatures? Need to know as this would severly nerf a Druid build.

Are you also limiting Item Creation feats? Scribe scroll, Craft Potion, Craft Arms & Armor & Craft Wonderous Items are all allow in core book, and while they may not all be tremedously useful in a fight but it could lead to the extra resources needed to win.

Are traits legal? These are typically used in everyday Pathfinder Play, but are not found in the core book.


No traits sorry

You can use item creation feats if you want of coarse.

There will be no spell casting before the fight.

You will just have to work on the worst scenario premise.

I agree full healing and spells recovered after each fight makes sense given my rules on no spells before.

Also no animal companions but you could if you can get it of summon a creature.

Good luck


Keep it going guys and girls first characters received today lets have some more?


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Just posting to say that I'm interested, and bumping so more people can see. I'm really interested to see where this goes, as I've never heard of anything like it before.


I post from work and I've no way of seeing the video: could you post the full guidelines?

Books allowed, level (5th?), races etc...


Hi crysknife ,

Only using core book.

You can use anything from that.

You also have 32 point buy to build your character and 10,500 gp to purchase equipment.

It's will be like gladiator battle I will be doing the battles as a series of video's on my YouTube site theoutsiders68.

My hope is to get at least sixteen people but it could be 32 the ay it's going which is great.

You can't have any animal companions or spells up before a fight but once it starts anything goes.

Basically any questions just ask

Post character to Sean.connors68@ me.com

And good luck


Bring out your builds....


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZiqFbWGyI0

Check out this super cool video.

Made by one of the players.


I'm considering this, but I have a few questions.

What ends the match? Is it only going below 0 HP? Can you "concede" the match? Is falling asleep or other forms of helplessness another way to lose, or would a coup de grace need to happen? I'm mostly wondering if an Enchantment Wizard is viable.

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GrenMeera wrote:

I'm considering this, but I have a few questions.

What ends the match? Is it only going below 0 HP? Can you "concede" the match? Is falling asleep or other forms of helplessness another way to lose, or would a coup de grace need to happen? I'm mostly wondering if an Enchantment Wizard is viable.

I can answer this. Sean has mentioned that this fight will be to the death!! below zero hitpoints is the name of the game. I don't think you can concede the match. Good question about helplessness. That would suck to get in to a match "fall asleep" and then be helpless for the kill. I would say that build is definitly viable


outsiders68 wrote:

Hi crysknife ,

Only using core book.

You can use anything from that.

You also have 32 point buy to build your character and 10,500 gp to purchase equipment.

It's will be like gladiator battle I will be doing the battles as a series of video's on my YouTube site theoutsiders68.

My hope is to get at least sixteen people but it could be 32 the ay it's going which is great.

You can't have any animal companions or spells up before a fight but once it starts anything goes.

Basically any questions just ask

Post character to Sean.connors68@ me.com

And good luck

What level?

Dark Archive

wraithstrike wrote:
outsiders68 wrote:

Hi crysknife ,

Only using core book.

You can use anything from that.

You also have 32 point buy to build your character and 10,500 gp to purchase equipment.

It's will be like gladiator battle I will be doing the battles as a series of video's on my YouTube site theoutsiders68.

My hope is to get at least sixteen people but it could be 32 the ay it's going which is great.

You can't have any animal companions or spells up before a fight but once it starts anything goes.

Basically any questions just ask

Post character to Sean.connors68@ me.com

And good luck

What level?

Level 5 wraith


5th level ...

If you need anything else

Please email me

Sean.connors68@me.com

Regards


I was looking at Sorcerer, but I just remembered no 3rd level spells


Was contacted that link was not working it is now,sorry about that.

And 8 red wizards get creative there is still a way to get higher level spells?

So put simply get designing and have fun.


Come on pathfinder community I still want more characters.

I will be putting another video out Monday.

Come on get behind this attempt see you on the sand.

Grand Lodge

Is fly allowed? If so give the wizard Imp. Init and fly and just nuke everyone from a few hundred feet.


If you read the post it's fith level based.

Submit a character lets see how you do.

Interested


what books are allowed in the challange?

Scarab Sages

What is the arena like? a level 5 wizard vs a lvl 5 fighter 30' away is an init roll from death...We have had this debate for 20+ years and it is still true - up close, mage unfavored, from afar, mage favored. As the above poster hinted, if we know the arena ( is it domed? plants around? how far apart? difficult terrain/water? random arena per match?)

Also, do you know what you are fighting before hand? prepping spells to suit the opponent would be critical.


This is a gladiator match no prepared spells.

Iniative and go.

I am giving nothing away about the battle ground you have to use your wisdom and skill to build the best build you can.

Don't dismiss it till you give it a go?

Trust me many have signed up and the builds are very varied.

Any further information you need please read the whole post or email me direct Sean.connors68@me.com

Kind regards

Sean


Core book only....


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isnt it a little horrible to take away druids and rangers animal companion, after all that nerfs the classes quite brutally.


Without giving anything away have you read the whole post?

32point buy and 10500 gold to spend

Nerf there builds I don't agree.

There are ways to get support I will say no more

Give it a go.

Show the community who can create the best build in this situation.


hmm just a little sad that we are down to 6-7 viable classes then. considering monks, rogues and rangers need stuff from splat books. And paladins wont work vs non evil chars.


Many people have submitted a character from the very builds you mention happy that they have a chance prove them wrong.

I simply won't use splat books not as well play tested and I can break them so I know you guys can but this will be a challenge.

I hope you will take part.

Paizo Employee Senior Software Developer

Removed some posts. Just because the messageboards will obscure profanity for you does not mean that you should use it repeatedly. Oh, and also please don't be a jerk. You don't like someone's thread, you don't have to post in it.


@ outsiders

I think i will submit the winning build tomorrow, atm i am studying for an exam (its tomorrow) but after it i should be able to squeeze out a build, hope i am not to late because i have something seriously off the wall in mind. :)

Also is potions or other consumables allowed? and if so then how would they work (only one fight or for every fight).


Taking away animal companions (and to a lesser degree famaliars) hurt those classes. Also know who I will be fighting does impact my choice of spells to memorize which is the point of Indivar's questions which you clearly misunderstood. I have no problem with not having that knowledge it will just require a wider list of memorized spells. I'll think about posting something after tomorrow's finals.


Consumables once used are gone.

However check out update video link below

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xbDbXr79v48

You have till Sunday 20th to get build in good luck.


Bump new video up....


For Wizards and Arcane Sorcerers will you let them use an arcane bond item in place of there Familiar? Also let paladins get there Bonded Weapon instead of a Bonded Mount?


Yes in both counts make sense. Yes


My entry is in. I'm pumped.


I'm kind of sad: I've thought a bit about the challenge and I came up with unsatisfactory solutions. I'll submit soon the one less boring, I guess. I'll see if others were able to come up with more interesting ideas.

Sczarni

Sean,

You said you'd be running games via YouTube "to the best of your ability."

Does this mean that you will run both gladiators tactically and in terms of role play while the community watches, or will you post videos for the contestants to respond to?

I think the later would be very time consuming, but I'd be interested to see how it comes off.


Crysknife wrote:
I'm kind of sad: I've thought a bit about the challenge and I came up with unsatisfactory solutions. I'll submit soon the one less boring, I guess. I'll see if others were able to come up with more interesting ideas.

Well, the fact of the matter is we don't know what kind of environment he is going to give us, or how random the opponent selection will be. I really like the character I made, but admit certain environments could own him.

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