Monstrous Extremities


Rules Questions

Grand Lodge

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Exactly how is this supposed to work?
Can you make feet into claws?
Can you attack with the natural attacks alone as primary attacks?
Can the now tentacle limbs grasp or manipulate object?


blackbloodtroll wrote:
Can you make feet into claws?

Monstrous Extremities: "You can choose from a tentacle, a hoof, or a wing."

blackbloodtroll wrote:
Can you attack with the natural attacks alone as primary attacks?

Monstrous Extremities: "they do act as natural weapons of the appropriate type, and the subject can use them to make secondary attacks while making attacks with weapons as a full-attack action."

Natural Attacks: "If a creature has only one natural attack, it is always made using the creature's full base attack bonus and adds 1-1/2 the creature's Strength bonus on damage rolls."

So if the creature has no natural attacks, then it gets a Monstrous Extremity, then that is its only natural attack, and thus it acts as Primary, unless it also makes attacks with manufactured weapons.

blackbloodtroll wrote:
Can the now tentacle limbs grasp or manipulate object?

Monstrous Extremities: "The subject cannot hold a weapon or use any item that would ordinarily fit into the slot of the changed extremity."

I would allow a tentacle to manipulate objects within reason.

Grand Lodge

Would the attacks with wings be considered claw attacks? I am thinking pterodactyl wings here.


blackbloodtroll wrote:
Would the attacks with wings be considered claw attacks?

No, they're wing attacks. Claws are claws.

Check out the Table.

blackbloodtroll wrote:
I am thinking pterodactyl wings here.

If you mean Pteranodon, it doesn't actually have a wing attack. If it did, since the Pteranodon is Large, it would deal 1d6 Bludgeoning damage.

Grand Lodge

Need weapons to do something? This 3rd spell is your doom!
Need unarmed attacks to do something? This 3rd spell is your doom!
Need to manipulate material components to cast a spell? This 3rd spell is your doom!

It's only me, or this is spell is WAY too strong for it's level (or any level).


With a one minute casting time, opportunity to use it offensively seems pretty limited.

Grand Lodge

dragonhunterq wrote:
With a one minute casting time, opportunity to use it offensively seems pretty limited.

Fair enough, didn't paid attention on this small hiccup.

From overkill to "i just dunno what to do with it" in my scale.

Hey, two mishaps in a row, i'm a dumb!

dragonhunterq, thanks for the warning!

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