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Seeker of Secrets details rules on resonate ioun stones. How should these be run in organized play? The rules state that an ioun stone can have its potential determined with detect magic/spellcraft but does that mean that when purchasing my ioun stones I can always choose ones that are resonate?
Is this determined randomly when purchased in front of the DM like a day job roll?
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Check the PFS Guide. Always use the pre-determined effects under Method 1. All normal Ioun Stones have resonance powers, all cracked and flawed stones do not.Seeker of Secrets details rules on resonate ioun stones. How should these be run in organized play? The rules state that an ioun stone can have its potential determined with detect magic/spellcraft but does that mean that when purchasing my ioun stones I can always choose ones that are resonate?
Is this determined randomly when purchased in front of the DM like a day job roll?
Where do you see that? The PFS Guide just mentions how to determine which effect the resonance has but gives no mention of how to determine which Ioun Stones have resonance.
"Everything in this book is legal for play (and considered part of
the core assumption) with one note: ioun stones use method 1 for
resonance and never use method 2."
The only rules on how to determine which Ioun Stones resonate is in Seeker of Secrets:
"Resonant Powers: Only 25% of cracked or
flawed ioun stones have resonant powers (see Wayfinders
and Ioun Stones on page 51) compared to the 75% chance
for typical ioun stones; only 10% of scorched ioun stones have
resonant powers."
Is there something I'm missing?
Only normal ioun stones have resonance. None of the rest do. I'll make sure this goes into the next update.
Only normal ioun stones have resonance. None of the rest do. I'll make sure this goes into the next update.
What about, since cracked and flawed ioun stones only resonate 25% of the time, you can buy one that resonates if you spend 4 times the listed price?
That's not a bad idea, but it's rather a bit more complicated than the way the rule is currently clarified. For now, we'll stick to the current ruling.
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What about, since cracked and flawed ioun stones only resonate 25% of the time, you can buy one that resonates if you spend 4 times the listed price?
Interesting idea. Here's a potential problem though. At 25% chance to get one that resonates, I could, theoretically, buy 4 and 1 of them should resonate. It costs me 4x the price of 1, but I end up with 4 stones, too. Now, I can't remember - do the bonuses from ioun stones stack? If they do, for 4x the price I get 4x the bonus plus a resonant stone. (And if not, my point is moot :)
If I pay 4x the price to get a stone that resonates but only get 1x the bonus, I'm not getting the same value for my money.
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The bonuses only stack if it's,say an ioun stone with a +2 enchancement bonus to dex with a resonant ability of a +2 enchancement bonus to dex. I don't know/don't think this will happen with Method 1, however, which is what is used for pathfinder society.
Joshua - Does "only normal ioun stones can have a resonant ability" apply only in PFS, or does it apply to all PFRPG, such as APs?
Just PFS. If you read the full section in Seekers of Secrets it gives a percentage chance for flawed ioun stones, something we don't use in PFS.
Interesting idea. Here's a potential problem though. At 25% chance to get one that resonates, I could, theoretically, buy 4 and 1 of them should resonate. It costs me 4x the price of 1, but I end up with 4 stones, too. Now, I can't remember - do the bonuses from ioun stones stack? If they do, for 4x the price I get 4x the bonus plus a resonant stone. (And if not, my point is moot :)
If I pay 4x the price to get a stone that resonates but only get 1x the bonus, I'm not getting the same value for my money.
You aren't no. And in some cases, 4x the price might be more than a regular stone (I don't have the numbers in front of me). It's just a suggestion for a balanced compromise, to allow a low level character to benefit from an Ioun Stone in a Wayfinder.
I would really like to see this. I think it's worth an extra rule for. I mean, our characters are all in the PFS, Ioun Stone + Wayfinder = perfect fit.
I can't see implementing changes to the ioun stone system happening.
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Only normal ioun stones have resonance. None of the rest do. I'll make sure this goes into the next update.
The update made it in but you may want to reword it to say
"Additionally, only normal ioun stones have
resonance inferior ioun stones never do."
Right now it uses flawed in place of inferior which is a subset of inferior in the book. Anyone should be able to tell the intent but still I wouldn't be suprised if someone stared asking about cracked or schorched.
Maybe it's time to revisit the matter? :)
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It's still in the Additional Resources:
Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Seekers of Secrets
Everything in this book is legal for play with the following notes. Equipment: ioun stones use method 1 for resonance and never use method 2. Additionally, only normal ioun stones have resonance—inferior ioun stones never do. Prestige Class: Pathfinder Savants replace the item creation feat prerequisite with Spell Focus
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Oh lol. I thought it was in the Guide. No wonder I couldnt find it. :PIt might very well have been when Seekers was part of the core assumption. I don't remember =p
Oh, it definitely was, back when the Additional Resources information consisted of pages 30-31 of the Guide, before Paizo, wisely, moved that information onto a web page that was easier to keep up-to-date with new products and errata.