RoTR / CotCT Hybrid Campaign Discussion


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Hi! Iziak here. I’m wondering if anyone around these parts would be interested in a Rise of the Runelords/Curse of the Crimson Throne Hybrid Play-By-Post.

Although I know that there are some other RoTR and CotCT PbP’s already active, the main reason that I want to do this is because A) I need a group and B) I want to test out the PRPG Beta rules. Also, this game will be different from those because it combines many elements from both Adventure Paths into a single campaign. Also, I’m fine with you joining in even if you’ve already read or GM’d one or both of those Adventure Paths.

Now, on we go:

POSTING GUIDELINES

I hope for postings from everyone at least once per day, if not more. If you are unable to post on a particular day, I may post in your stead if necessary. I plan to check the ‘boards a few times a day, but sometimes that might not happen… I’ll take a look as much as is reasonably possible, and I hope that you do the same.

I don’t feel that other players are going to cheat… that’s just not cool and it goes against the spirit of playtesting. So, you can roll your dice at home. Just post the total, MODIFIED, result. For attacks, please post attack roll and damage roll at the same time.

CHARACTERS

All rules in the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Beta Playtest Edition are usable by players. In addition, in the spirit of backwards-compatability, I’m also allowing most rules (by Paizo, Wizards, or another company) designed for 3.0/3.5. If you use something not from the PRPG Beta, however, please notify me of the source and page that it is in, and provide full rules text (for a race, feat, spell, or magic item) or provide most rules text if asked (for classes and other major rules elements).

Ability scores are generated using the standard PRPG Beta point buy system.

The following races are allowed: the core seven, tieflings (without a level adjustment and without the darkness spell-like ability), changelings (with the addition of +2 to any ability score), shifters (with the addition of +2 Wisdom and the removal of -2 Intelligence), and warforged (with the addition of +2 Intelligence and the removal of -2 Wisdom).

The following classes are allowed: the core eleven, warlock, duskblade, hexblade, scout, psion, psychic warrior, wilder, soulknife, dragonfire adept, factotum, dragon shaman, artificer, warmage, and spellthief. The Chaotic Good paladin variant in Unearthed Arcana is also fine for use.

Other races or classes may be possible, but please check with me before using them.

PLAYTESTING GOALS

I hope to start a thread in the Playtest Discussion forum to cover various things regarding three points, as they are found in the campaign:

1) Backwards Compatibility is a first. I am allowing most 3.0/3.5 rules from most companies into the game without modification to make the rules equivalent to those in PRPG Beta (although any changes necessary to make them function will be made). Monsters and NPCs may be tweaked slightly to account for a few more hit points, etc., as explained in the Beta.

2) Fun is about on par with compatibility. If one of my players or I ever comes across a new rule that really doesn’t make sense and detracts from the game, or one that makes the game immensely better, I hope to post information about it.

3) Simplification is important. Rules such as polymorph and grapple have hopefully been simplified, as has turning undead to some extent (with a positive energy heals living/hurts undead and vice versa) but whenever such rules come into play I will report on how well they play.

I’m hoping for a total of 3-5 players. I already have one player, Tomato26.

The following spoiler is for anyone interested in how a hybrid of the two APs would be. Please don’t look at it unless you’ve already read one or both of the APS.

Spoiler:
Instead of Sandpoint, much of the action takes place in and around Korvosa. PF7 is left mostly intact, but with some elements of PF1. After that, PF2 and PF8 really blend together with the PCs exploring the haunted mansion to try to find the source of the disease. The fortress in PF3 would be used near the end of PF9 (which would have a lot of modifications). Much of PF4 becomes a dungeon-crawly side trek in PF10, which is modified quite a bit. PF 5 and 6 remain mostly intact, but with a decent number of modifications.

If there are any other questions, please post here.

Thanks!


Hi, I would jump at the chance of playing in this. Half Orc barbarian from the Realm of the Mamoth Lords?


Captain Cuddles wrote:
Hi, I would jump at the chance of playing in this. Half Orc barbarian from the Realm of the Mamoth Lords?

Sure thing. Looking through your profile(s), I see you've already had some experience with PbP games. Great!

Out of curiosity, what (if any) experience with Pathfinder books, and the RotR and CotCT Adventure Paths in particular, do you have? Also, have you played using Beta rules before (and how'd it go if you did)?

Thanks!


I believe Tomato26 plans on playing an elf ranger (not quite positive yet, though). He isn't really familiar with the setting or the rules changes for the Beta, but I've played with him in person before and I think he'll catch on fast to both the tweaked rules and the whole PbP thing.


We now have two players. There are still 1-3 open spaces.

Shadow Lodge

Male Human (Sometimes) Gamer/Writer/Husband

Hey there. I'd totally want to play a human Sorcerer/Wizard combo - I can't wait to try out their new rules!

Anyhow, tell me what you need, and you shall have it!

Liberty's Edge

Male Human

Hey there...

I've never done a play by post but i'd like to try it out.

i'm not 110% on what kind of character i'd play but i'll post as soon as i figure it out.


Hi,

I'm Iziak's friend. So far I've decided on being either an Elf or a Dwarf. As far as my class goes, I'm probably going to be ranger.


Male Human Sorceror (Stormborn) 18

If there's still room I'd like to try a half- elf rogue or monk.


PsionicFox wrote:

Hey there. I'd totally want to play a human Sorcerer/Wizard combo - I can't wait to try out their new rules!

Anyhow, tell me what you need, and you shall have it!

Sure, you're in. Might I suggest the Ultimate Magus prestige class from Complete Mage if you go for a sorcerer/wizard?


Memento Mori wrote:

Hey there...

I've never done a play by post but i'd like to try it out.

i'm not 110% on what kind of character i'd play but i'll post as soon as i figure it out.

You're in. It looks like we still need a cleric or druid, if you're up to that.


Vulcan Stormwrath wrote:
If there's still room I'd like to try a half- elf rogue or monk.

You're the last person. A rogue would probably be good for trapfinding... but I'll let you skirt the multiclassing requirement if you wanted to go rogue/monk.


AND... We're full!

Five players:

Captain Cuddles, Memento Mori, Vulcan Stormwrath, Tomato26, and PsionicFox.

Welcome!

EDIT: Just out of curiosity, what (if any) experience do any of you have with the Beta and with Pathfinder in general, especially RotR and CotCT?


Male Human Sorceror (Stormborn) 18

I think straight rogue would be a fine start. Are we starting at level one?


Vulcan Stormwrath wrote:
I think straight rogue would be a fine start. Are we starting at level one?

Yes.


I’ve noticed that both Memento Mori and Tomato26 are new to the ‘boards. Just to get them started off a bit more and prepare them for PbP games, here’s a quick overview of how to create an Alias and use out-of-character text. Also, all players should look at my character posting guidelines.

Alias Creation: An Alias can be used instead of your normal name and avatar. When using an Alias to post, your name appears in a shade of purple (DM_Iziak is an Alias for my normal username, Iziak). To create an Alias, go your account and find the Messageboard Aliases box. Click “Create a new Messageboard Alias,” and create your Alias just like your normal username. You should choose an avatar and name that matches or is similar to that of the character that you will be playing. Once you have an Alias, a box at the bottom of the screen where you post will allow you to choose what Alias you post as.

Out-Of-Character Text: To type in text out-of-character, such as the results of die rolls or questions for the DM, see the BBCode tags you can use, underneath the message typing box.

Character Statistics: Character statistics should be posted, in full, on your Alias’s profile page. Any standard character format (the 3.5 MM format, the 3.5 adventure format, or the Pathfinder format) can be used for character statisitics.

To access and edit your profile, click on the image of your avatar after posting and you can create a profile page from there. You can view anyone’s profile page by clicking on their avatar or username.

Memento Mori and Tomato26, I hope that that can help you out a little bit. If there are any other questions regarding characters, let me know.


Note that you can create a vague character background, but I’ll develop it more fully so that it fits smoothly into the campaign.


Male Human Sorceror (Stormborn) 18

Great will post character by later this evening.


An additional note: I will be employing a "wish list" method for magic items. When you create your character and whenever you level up, please make a list of 3-5 magic items that you are interested in and that would be reasonable for your level character. I'll use these lists to try and build good treasure hoards. All magic items in the beta and its enhancement are available, as are most from the v3.5 Magic Item Compendium.

Also, unless there are any objections, I'll be handling XP differently than normal... by which I mean that I'm getting rid of it entirely. To keep you all on a good level (and to save me some major XP division headaches), I'd like to just let you know when to level up. This will typically be after about 5-10 encounters, but it may vary based on the situation that you are in, and you'll only level up when you aren't in a dungeon (and sometimes when you move from one level to another in a dungeon). If you ever think that it's been too long since the last level bump, please let me know. I'm just going to try and keep it on track so that the campaign ends around level 15.


Note (and soon I'll stop posting all of these updates to how the campaign will work) that I hope for the game to go a little faster than most PbPs. For this reason, I'll be giving out full monster defenses and hit points to you at the start of each encounter, so you can determine if you hit and, if so, how much damage you deal after resistances and DR.

In addition, saving throws will be static numbers just like AC, each equal to 10 + the standard saving throw modifier. Whenever a spell or ability is used that allows a save, the user makes an attack roll of 1d20+[the normal save DC-10] against each target. In this way, spells and abilities attack the same way that normal melee and ranged attacks do. And yes, this is similar to 4th edition... but in all honesty, I think that it is a better system). If anybody has objections to either of these, please let me know.


My Pathfinder experience is as follows. I have nearly all products so far. I did start running part 1 of ROTRL with my local group but due to time constraints had to put it on hold. Havent yet read COTCT. But I can (and have on many occasions) play without using DM knowledge if you know what I mean. I have played D&D now for 21 years.


Male Half Orc Barbarian 2

This will be my half orc barbarians avatar and name. I will probably be able to post his stats and some background tomorr.ow if thats ok

Shadow Lodge

Male Human (Sometimes) Gamer/Writer/Husband
DM_Iziak wrote:
Might I suggest the Ultimate Magus prestige class from Complete Mage if you go for a sorcerer/wizard?

You read my mind...

EDIT: Also, when you say 'Standard PFRPG Point Buy', you mean, 15 point to spend, stats start at 10, right?


I was just about to ask the same thing myself...


Captain Cuddles wrote:
My Pathfinder experience is as follows. I have nearly all products so far. I did start running part 1 of ROTRL with my local group but due to time constraints had to put it on hold. Havent yet read COTCT. But I can (and have on many occasions) play without using DM knowledge if you know what I mean. I have played D&D now for 21 years.

[Mr. Burns voice] Excellent [/Mr. Burns voice].

Skazzgrakk wrote:
This will be my half orc barbarians avatar and name. I will probably be able to post his stats and some background tomorr.ow if thats ok

Sure thing.

PsionicFox wrote:
Also, when you say 'Standard PFRPG Point Buy', you mean, 15 point to spend, stats start at 10, right?

Yes, it's 15 points, start at 10.


Also, at Tomato26, PsionicFox, Memento Mori, and Vulcan Stormwrath, could I get your actual race and class finalized?

In addition, to everyone, please post using your character Alias in the adventure thread, discussion thread, and playtest thread (more to come on that last one) at all times... it makes it a lot easier to keep track of who's who than if, say, PsionicFox is alternating between [made up name] "Yargle Bandrial the First" [/made up name] in between threads... especially if five people are doing it.

(I'm not pointing specifically at you, PsionicFox, I just needed an example).


Male Human Wizard 1
DM_Iziak wrote:
(I'm not pointing specifically at you, PsionicFox, I just needed an example).

That's fine - it's now done.

Meet the partially-constructed Corvin, Human Wizard (soon to be Sorcerer also)!


Corvin wrote:
DM_Iziak wrote:
(I'm not pointing specifically at you, PsionicFox, I just needed an example).

That's fine - it's now done.

Meet the partially-constructed Corvin, Human Wizard (soon to be Sorcerer also)!

Great!


By the way, Corvin can take his masterwork staff for free if you want since it's his bonded item.


Skazzgrakk wrote:
This will be my half orc barbarians avatar and name. I will probably be able to post his stats and some background tomorr.ow if thats ok

Sorry... quick addition. You can go ahead and create a character background (although I may need to modify it to fit the campaign). Especially with the last few years of Skazzgrakk's life, I may need to make some additions and/or modifications so that the campaign works... but please, go ahead and create your own background for his life in the Realm of the Mammoth Lords, if you want.


Male Dwarf Ranger/ 2

Here is the name my partially constructed character: Gobrun, Son of Ogrun, the Rotund Ranger of Redcave.

As for some background information:

Goburn was born in a quiet mountain village known as Redcave. At a young age Goburn came to enjoy the wilderness, and was apprenticed to another ranger. After completing his apprenticeship, Goburn joined the local militia and fended off the seldom intrusive Goblin parties. Goburn soon became restless with his life, and went out into the world. After a while of going from town to town doing good deeds, Goburn joined a party of adventurers. Goburn, however, once again became restless, as the party lacked much initiative. After some time, Goburn turned to food in order to abate his boredom. Goburn finally left the party, after having gained much weight, and fashioned himself the Rotund Ranger of Redcave, at which point he set off anew.


Female Half-Elf Rogue 3/ Urban Ranger 2

Here we go. Do you want to come up with her background? I'll soon add a paragraph with her personality. She may multiclass to monk or I'll just describe her weapon movements as very martial arts based.

I'm currently playtesting Beta in another PbP, soon going to DM a tabletop playtest of Pathfinder Beta as well. Been playing D&D for 10yrs.

Also what are we doing for Hit Points, Are we using background traits and if so could I have Unhappy Childhood: Tortured?


Goburn, Son of Ogrun wrote:
Goburn was born in a quiet mountain village known as Redcave. At a young age Goburn came to enjoy the wilderness, and was apprenticed to another ranger. After completing his apprenticeship, Goburn joined the local militia and fended off the seldom intrusive Goblin parties. Goburn soon became restless with his life, and went out into the world. After a while of going from town to town doing good deeds, Goburn joined a party of adventurers. Goburn, however, once again became restless, as the party lacked much initiative. After some time, Goburn turned to food in order to abate his boredom. Goburn finally left the party, after having gained much weight, and fashioned himself the Rotund Ranger of Redcave, at which point he set off anew.

Sounds good. I may need to change the name of the town you're from, if that's okay, so that it fits the Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting. Also, I'll add in another paragraph or so of background to bring your character up to date with the start of the campaign.

Liandra Nightwind wrote:
Also what are we doing for Hit Points, Are we using background traits and if so could I have Unhappy Childhood: Tortured?

I was planning on using double maximum hit points + Con modifier. We aren't using background traits right now, because I think that it gives the characters a fair bonus, and this campaign is partially a playtest, so it could throw that out of whack. I'm certainly not using the traits from the Curse of the Crimson Throne Player's Guide because the campaign doesn't need any connection to Lamm.

Also, Liandra, could you maybe use a different avatar? That's the iconic barbarian, and it seems kind of weird of a rogue/monk. It doesn't really matter, just a suggestion.

One other quick question: How much gold did you start with?

A note to everyone: When providing background information, could you please use spoiler tags? (Goburn, Memento Mori, how to use spoiler tags can be found in the BBCode tags you can use section).


Memento Mori wrote:

Hey there...

I've never done a play by post but i'd like to try it out.

i'm not 110% on what kind of character i'd play but i'll post as soon as i figure it out.

Just asking... are you still planning on playing? I know it's only been a day or two, but a lot of people are already working on characters. I just wanted to confirm that you were still interested, because I could try to find a different player.

Also note that if you don't think that you'll be able to post at least once a day, I may need to run your character at times... just to keep things moving.


Female
DM_Iziak wrote:

Just asking... are you still planning on playing? I know it's only been a day or two, but a lot of people are already working on characters. I just wanted to confirm that you were still interested, because I could try to find a different player.

Also note that if you don't think that you'll be able to post at least once a day, I may need to run your character at times... just to keep things moving.

Are all the slots filled? If not, I'd be interested in playing a Druid.


Male Human Wizard 1

Mechanically speaking, Corvin is almost ready to go (I just need to buy equipment).

On the subject of background/personality, he's still a blank slate.

With that in mind, could I ask where we will be starting out? Corvin will likely be a graduate from the Acadamae in Korvosa.


Corvin wrote:

Mechanically speaking, Corvin is almost ready to go (I just need to buy equipment).

On the subject of background/personality, he's still a blank slate.

With that in mind, could I ask where we will be starting out? Corvin will likely be a graduate from the Acadamae in Korvosa.

Great! One note is that, as I said above, I was hoping to use static saving throw numbers if there aren't any objections, so that your saves would be 11/11/13 instead of +1/+1/+3.

For background, you can certainly be an Acadamae graduate. There really are only two important parts to all characters' backgrounds: they must currently live in Korvosa, and they must have some reason to really hate goblins.

EDIT: Also, Common is called Taldane, not Chelaxian, but it doesn't matter... Chelaxians all speak Taldane, so they might call it Chelaxian. Whichever suits you.


Kyrinn S. Eis wrote:
DM_Iziak wrote:

Just asking... are you still planning on playing? I know it's only been a day or two, but a lot of people are already working on characters. I just wanted to confirm that you were still interested, because I could try to find a different player.

Also note that if you don't think that you'll be able to post at least once a day, I may need to run your character at times... just to keep things moving.

Are all the slots filled? If not, I'd be interested in playing a Druid.

All slots are currently filled. However, if/when anybody leaves the game, you are next in line if you're still interested at that point.


PsionicFox wrote:
DM_Iziak wrote:
Might I suggest the Ultimate Magus prestige class from Complete Mage if you go for a sorcerer/wizard?
You read my mind...

Note the skill prerequisites change for the Ultimate Magus to account for the Beta skill system... for a wizard/sorcerer, it is Knowledge (arcana) 1 rank and Spellcraft 5 ranks. The other prerequisites are unchanged.


Female Half-Elf Rogue 3/ Urban Ranger 2
DM_Iziak wrote:

Also, Liandra, could you maybe use a different avatar? That's the iconic barbarian, and it seems kind of weird of a rogue/monk. It doesn't really matter, just a suggestion.

One other quick question: How much gold did you start with?

A note to everyone: When providing background information, could you please use spoiler tags? (Goburn, Memento Mori, how to use spoiler tags can be found in the BBCode tags...

Irolled it and ended up with 210g will change avatar soon.

Liberty's Edge

Male Human
Kyrinn S. Eis wrote:
DM_Iziak wrote:

Just asking... are you still planning on playing? I know it's only been a day or two, but a lot of people are already working on characters. I just wanted to confirm that you were still interested, because I could try to find a different player.

Also note that if you don't think that you'll be able to post at least once a day, I may need to run your character at times... just to keep things moving.

Are all the slots filled? If not, I'd be interested in playing a Druid.

heyo, unfortunately I'm not gonna be able to do this, sorry for the inconvenience but go ahead and fill my spot.

thanks


Male Half Orc Barbarian 2

Ok, my stats are up as is my background. Let me know if there need to be any changes.


Kyrinn S. Eis wrote:
Are all the slots filled? If not, I'd be interested in playing a Druid.

You can join now if you want, since Memento Mori has left. A druid would be great! There's a lot of stuff above about character creation and all, and an Alias with an avatar for your character would be much appreciated!


Memento Mori wrote:

heyo, unfortunately I'm not gonna be able to do this, sorry for the inconvenience but go ahead and fill my spot.

thanks

That's a bummer. Thanks for letting me know, though.


Skazzgrakk wrote:
Ok, my stats are up as is my background. Let me know if there need to be any changes.

The background's great. A quick mention is your rage... in the Beta, rage isn't 1/day, it's based on rage points, even at 1st level. That's the only thing that I really saw in my brief glance-over.

(and by the way... thanks for giving me the dwarf as an adversary!)


Liandra Nightwind wrote:
I rolled it and ended up with 210g will change avatar soon.

What did you use to roll? I didn't see anything in the Beta, so was it just the v3.5 table? I'm not doubting you in any way... you can keep the 210 gp (it doesn't make much of a difference once you reach 2nd level, anyway), I'm just curious.


Corvin wrote:
Meet the partially-constructed Corvin, Human Wizard (soon to be Sorcerer also)!

Thank you very much for changing the saves to 11/11/13... and it's just a nitpick, but you still have a "+" before each one. Since we're using static saves, they're just numbers the way AC is. Whenever you next edit your profile, could you just take those out? I'd like all the profiles as clean as possible (for ease of reference), if it's not too much trouble. [humor] And I don't want you rolling a 30 on your Fort save at 1st level [/humor]. No rush, though.


Female Half-Elf Rogue 3/ Urban Ranger 2
DM_Iziak wrote:
Liandra Nightwind wrote:
I rolled it and ended up with 210g will change avatar soon.
What did you use to roll? I didn't see anything in the Beta, so was it just the v3.5 table? I'm not doubting you in any way... you can keep the 210 gp (it doesn't make much of a difference once you reach 2nd level, anyway), I'm just curious.

On page 98 (99 on pdf) theres a starting wealth chart. Rogue gets 4d6x10. I got 2 6's a 5 and a 4.


Liandra Nightwind wrote:
On page 98 (99 on pdf) theres a starting wealth chart. Rogue gets 4d6x10. I got 2 6's a 5 and a 4.

Ah... thanks. I must have missed that. Good avatar change, by the way.


Thanks for the update to your saves, Corvin. It looks like all you need now is equipment and HP and you'll be ready to go. I'm hoping to start the campaign on Monday, since it looks like most everyone is about ready (except for our potential druid).

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