I have a concept for an android who has a life's goal of reproducing new androids from herself. Are there any in game ways to accomplish this? I was looking at the Clone Master, but don't see a way to make the clones independent entities.
I'm sure a Wish could get around this, but it seems like there should be a lower level option.
The trait:Cellular Match. It allows you to be more human when you polymorph, but that probably wouldn't do anything to help with gaining reproductive abilities.
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Half-Dragon?
As I recall don't android bodies spontaneously generate new souls as the old soul gets tired and 'dies', the new one inhabiting the old body?
Take that, and a lot of self amputations, regeneration spells, gentle repose spells, some sewing, and maybe an oversized lightning rod for effect, and boom, new android.
There is a Lamashtu specific item, the Demon Mother's Mask, that let's you interbreed with animals within one size category.
So, now, your Android can breed, to make Animal/Android hybrids.
Interesting idea. That may be a valid option as this character could be used for Hell's Vengeance. Androids aren't very suited to the divine classes though. I suppose an Inquisitor could work.
When a mommy android and a daddy android love each other very much they have a special hug
Androids don't make good psychics, because of the emotion component. I'm thinking a witch might be a good option, if I can make Lamashtu my patron.
As I recall don't android bodies spontaneously generate new souls as the old soul gets tired and 'dies', the new one inhabiting the old body?
They don't "generate" new souls, the old one leaves, a new one arrives from the same place all new souls come from, and the nanites go into overdrive regenerating the body. almost Dr. Who style. The new soul may have some memories left over from the previous occupant.
Since androids are not Data-type constructs, they simply can't build a new android and give it live by budding off a piece of their own conciousness.
Still, if you build an entire new android body from surgically removed and then regenerated parts of another android, would that new android body also have a soul arrive?
I think casting a Clone spell on a dead android might work. The android's soul is transferred from the old body to the new one, leaving an unoccupied body for a new android soul to occupy in due course. After a relatively short period of time, you have gone from one android to two -- the old android in a new body and a new android in the repaired old body.
A ghoran now -- that race would be a challenge to make reproduce.
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When a mommy android and a daddy android love each other very much they have a special hug
"Mommy, why is Daddy's USB downloading data to you?"
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Iron Gods has this to say:
Every aspect of the android body is engineered to mirror human biology, even at the expense of practicality or optimization. Specialized nanites construct new androids inside incubators that resemble sarcophagi. A bone-like polymer makes up the skeleton, on which are layered synthetic muscles and connective tissue. The android's
artificial organs mimic those ofhumans, including heart, lungs, digestive tract, and nervous system. In the final stages of construction, the nanites lay down partially organic skin and hair analogs that so closely resemble that of organic humans as to be indistinguishable from them. The only physical trait that indicates androids' nature is a slight metallic sheen to their eyes if viewed in the right light. Otherwise, androids outwardly resemble humans in all ways, including a great diversity in skin, hair, and eye coloration. An android eats, drinks, breathes, and excretes much like a human, though certain improvements have been made. Androids do not require sleep, and resist biological diseases. Their thin, watery blood carries life-sustaining oxygen in the fluid itself rather than in cells. Instead of clotting, android bleeding is halted by repairs carried out by nanites. These nanites carry out other biological functions as well, including cleansing the body of accumulated toxins. Androids have limited control of their nanites, and can call on them to exceed their normal bodily and mental limits for an instant's effort. Some androids attain a higher level of control, and can marshal their nanites to heal grievous wounds in moments....
More than any other element, the android brain, is what makes androids truly alive and sentient. For this brain, the Androffan engineers eschewed circuitry in favor of a fully organic computer. Its artificial cells implement an adaptive neural network designed to mimic their best understanding of living brains. The Androffan creators focused on pre-programming basic motor skills, common words and phrases, and sensory
processing, but intended most knowledge and skills to be gained through life experience. Here the Androffan engineers exceeded their wildest hopes. As the first android bodies lay awaiting activation, they acquired nascent souls through means not fully understood even by their
creators. This miracle became a pivotal argument in the movement for android emancipation....
Though they have secondary sexual characteristics and can engage in and enjoy intercourse, androids have no functional reproductive organs and
cannot procreate. New androids originate only from foundries or from androids lost to renewal, in both cases beginning life fully grown. As living creatures with souls, androids can become undead like any other humanoids. Such undead occasionally exhibit additional powers-a legacy of their artificial bodies. In addition, androids can be brought back to life with raise dead, resurrection, and true resurrection. An android can benefit from reincarnate, but a creature can't reincarnate into an android. While their bodies resist poison and do not harbor disease, their artificial bodies remain susceptible to parasitic
infestation. In particular, androids exhibit no special resistance to infestation by harmful nanites. They are also susceptible to supernatural afflictions such as lycanthropy and curses.
So perhaps your characters goal could be to reproduce, only to find it is biologically impossible to do so, and instead sets out to find and operate a foundry to create more Androids, and then raise them as your children.
So perhaps your characters goal could be to reproduce, only to find it is biologically impossible to do so, and instead sets out to find and operate a foundry to create more Androids, and then raise them as your children.
No, the point is that she knows she can't have children, but wants to anyway. And she's willing to do just about anything to make it happen. Blame it on pride, if you want. Finding a foundry won't work for most APs, and I doubt that would satisfy her anyway. She has a strong desire to procreate as humans do. If there are no earlier options, it can always come down to a casting of Wish. I was just hoping there was a shorter route.
Crafting Wax Golems of oneself might be an option too.
Well, I think the first step is to establish what is the expectation for "reproduction" and "children". What do these terms mean?
Does the reproduction need to involve her body?
Do the children need to contain some of her biological/technological blueprints? Do these blueprints need to be split with another being (i.e. does a clone count)?
Personally, if you asking me if clones counted the answer would be no. They wouldn't have independent souls, and they would be genetic/technological duplicates of me. That is not what I would general establish as a child.
To me a child would have it's own soul, and contain genes/tech from at least 2 (if not more) parents. Them parent needs to raise and teach the child, it is not born with the same exact experiences (which would make them a very similar person in manner and personality since they effectively have your mind).
Perhaps she could reincarnate or otherwise move into a biological form instead of being an android, unless specifically reproducing androids is the important part.
I would be fine with parthenogenesis or budding. The soullessness of the clones is an issue.
I have considered "partial children" like the Homunculus from a Promethean Alchemist, or even a tumor familiar, since it would be made from her own body.
A clone would have the soul of the "parent" -- it is the original body that would get a new soul and effectively be the "child". In effect, the clone would raise as his or her child the new soul in her old body.
So that means that the main unsolved problem is how to introduce permanent alterations (preferably in the form of traits picked up from another android) into the original body before "killing" it.
So perhaps your characters goal could be to reproduce, only to find it is biologically impossible to do so, and instead sets out to find and operate a foundry to create more Androids, and then raise them as your children.No, the point is that she knows she can't have children, but wants to anyway. And she's willing to do just about anything to make it happen. Blame it on pride, if you want. Finding a foundry won't work for most APs, and I doubt that would satisfy her anyway. She has a strong desire to procreate as humans do. If there are no earlier options, it can always come down to a casting of Wish. I was just hoping there was a shorter route.
Is her name going to be Loretta? ;)
It's not an uncommon concept, but I was specifically inspired by Star Trek: TNG, The Offspring.
So perhaps your characters goal could be to reproduce, only to find it is biologically impossible to do so, and instead sets out to find and operate a foundry to create more Androids, and then raise them as your children.No, the point is that she knows she can't have children, but wants to anyway. And she's willing to do just about anything to make it happen. Blame it on pride, if you want. Finding a foundry won't work for most APs, and I doubt that would satisfy her anyway. She has a strong desire to procreate as humans do. If there are no earlier options, it can always come down to a casting of Wish. I was just hoping there was a shorter route.
I know of a vibrator with the same problem.
The Android needs to be a beast bonded witch. Or the psion class that does 9th level spells. These bodies allow you to take over another's body permanently. In this way, the android can be mother to thousands.
The beast bonded witch can pull this off a lot sooner. Plus this should work on a simulcrum or a clone. That way you don't have to destroy a true entity in the process.
Except that when she dies the eidolon dies
Half-Dragon?
I'm not sure I understand, but someone liked this. How do I use half-dragons? Do I need to find a way to become one? Do I need to find a dragon to mate with?
They start out as physical adults, not mental adults. It still takes them a couple of years to become responsible enough that they can be left on their own.
The offspring doesn't have to be a baby. You should watch that Star Trek episode for the inspiration. Basically, Data created the child's neural net from his own, and the neural net is the child. The body was mostly just a peripheral.
Hmmmmm. The thread title gives a whole new meaning to the age-old question: "Do androids dream of electric sheep?"...
I imagine that an android would build its offspring, piece by piece. The android might make its offspring identical to itself (sort of an android version of cloning) or make them different, maybe even upgraded - we all want the best for our children. If it's really ambitious, it would first build an assembly line then start cranking out offspring faster and more prolifically than the Duggars. Heck, for all I know, Ford Motors is just the result of a very prolific android reproducing...
A motherly (or fatherly) android might actually care for her offspring and raise them and nurture them. Otherwise, it might go as stated above, they are alone and must fend for themselves.
Half-Dragon?I'm not sure I understand, but someone liked this. How do I use half-dragons? Do I need to find a way to become one? Do I need to find a dragon to mate with?
Well you can have half-dragons of any living creature, even plants. Androids are living creatures. So you can apply the half-dragon template to an android. Thus, dragons can mate with androids and produce children.
In limbo, androids can mate with organics. In Wonderland, the Tooley Birds are sort of half tool, half bird. Also, there are rocking horse flies.
I've seen the homebrew topic about the android bloodline. Basicly an organic with nanites inside them. Egg or sperm nanites would be an advanced discovery like in Rosemer's(sp) Universal Robots.
A construct that can grow would eventually become a Jagger. A colossal creature capable of fighting creatures such as the Terrask.