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Hi there
Im playing a lvl 16 Half ELf Paladin with all related shield feats (Improved Shield Bash, Two weapon Fighting etc.) and I have various questions concerning shield combat
First, a heavy shield is a one handed weapon, so it gets its penalty increased for not being a light weapon in the off hand? From -2 -2 to -4 -4?
Second, the Shield Master feat says that you add your shields shield bonus to attacks and damage as an enhancement bonus, so if I also have the Shield Focus feat that increases the shields value to AC by 1 then I add this bonus too to attack and damage done?
Third, The shield Master feat also says that you no longer suffer any penalty to attacks made with your shield while you have a weapon. So could I hold the shield as the primary weapon and have another weapon in the off hand and still get the feat effect? So to fight with a +0 -2 two-handed.
Fourth, the Shield Slam feat says that you use your shields attack bonus instead your CMB for the free bull rush attempt, If I have Improved Bull Rush and Greater Bull Rush may I add +4 to the attack result while comparing it to the targets CMD?
Tom Baumbach |
First, a heavy shield is a one handed weapon, so it gets its penalty increased for not being a light weapon in the off hand? From -2 -2 to -4 -4?
Correct.
Second, the Shield Master feat says that you add your shields shield bonus to attacks and damage as an enhancement bonus, so if I also have the Shield Focus feat that increases the shields value to AC by 1 then I add this bonus too to attack and damage done?
Correct.
Third, The shield Master feat also says that you no longer suffer any penalty to attacks made with your shield while you have a weapon. So could I hold the shield as the primary weapon and have another weapon in the off hand and still get the feat effect? So to fight with a +0 -2 two-handed.
I'm a little confused by the question. Why does the shield have to be your main hand, or rather, how do you think the penalties would be different if the weapon (not the shield) were the main hand? (Also, two-handed means something different than two-weapon.)
Regardless, the penalties imposed for two-weapon fighting are determined by two things: do you have the Two-Weapon Fighting feat, and is the off-hand weapon light? The question of whether or not you can use a shield in your main hand and a weapon in your off-hand is a matter of some debate (but if you want my opinion: no you cannot, because shields specifically mention off-hand shield bashing).
Fourth, the Shield Slam feat says that you use your shields attack bonus instead your CMB for the free bull rush attempt, If I have Improved Bull Rush and Greater Bull Rush may I add +4 to the attack result while comparing it to the targets CMD?
I'd say that's accurate.
Shar Tahl |
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Second, the Shield Master feat says that you add your shields shield bonus to attacks and damage as an enhancement bonus, so if I also have the Shield Focus feat that increases the shields value to AC by 1 then I add this bonus too to attack and damage done?
It looks like Shield Focus does not add to shield mastery bonus. Here is the ruling by a lead designer.
Tom Baumbach |
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any attack that can be done in the off hand can also be done in the primary hand. This is not neccessarily true the other way around, without substantial penalties.
Making your shield your primary weapon and your shortsword in the off hand secondary is quite possible. So, yes, it is possible to have your shield your main weapon and something in your off hand as secondary. I recommend a Defender sword, hee!
==Aelryinth
Shar Tahl |
one thing I wonder is do you stop taking the -2 two weapon penalty on weapon and shield from this wording or just the shield?
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Shield Master (Combat)
Your mastery of the shield allows you to fight with it without hindrance.
Prerequisites: Improved Shield Bash, Shield Proficiency, Shield Slam, Two-Weapon Fighting, base attack bonus +11.
Benefit: You do not suffer any penalties on attack rolls made with a shield while you are wielding another weapon. Add your shield's shield bonus to attacks and damage rolls made with the shield as if it was an enhancement bonus.
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James Fenix |
any attack that can be done in the off hand can also be done in the primary hand. This is not neccessarily true the other way around, without substantial penalties.
Making your shield your primary weapon and your shortsword in the off hand secondary is quite possible. So, yes, it is possible to have your shield your main weapon and something in your off hand as secondary. I recommend a Defender sword, hee!
==Aelryinth
What is this Defender Sword you speak of? I'm the group's tank and I'm trying to squeeze as much AC as I can. Anything that could bump me up a few points is worth dropping my longsword for.
Tom Baumbach |
What is this Defender Sword you speak of? I'm the group's tank and I'm trying to squeeze as much AC as I can. Anything that could bump me up a few points is worth dropping my longsword for.
The defending magic weapon property, I think.