Quickdraw Darkwood Shield Question


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Silver Crusade

I'm completely new to the Game and i have a point what maybe needs several Opinions. I started playing in PF Society and it needs to fit in there.

I'm having Problems with the Darkwood Shield.
It makes the Heavy Shield lighter thus making it a light Shield with AC2 because the definition of heavy or light Shield in the Core Rulebook is simply the Weight(Light: 5 Heavy : 10).
There is an Option to make a Shield a Quickdraw-Shield if its a Light Shield.
So logically a Darkwood Shield could be Upgraded to a Quickdraw one.
Even the Prizing make Sense Darkwood Shield 257 + Quickdraw 53 = 310 GP.

I'm asking all this since i play A Paladin and want to Take "Quick Draw" Feat and Using a Quickdraw Shield to have both "donned" in the First round.
Or is there an Option to make a Quickdraw Shield +1 AC? Which for me Would have the same Benefit without spending a Feat on it.

Before other Suggest it: I don't wanna go TWF!

Thanks in Advance for Answers and Help!


I'm fairly certain it doesn't make a heavy shield into a light shield, but I don't have a rule on hand for that. If you're not going to go TWF, you should probably go two-hander with a quickdraw shield, because sword and board without TWF is pretty weak.

I'm pretty sure that Darkwood only makes your shield lighter and have a lower ACP.


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DonKalleOne wrote:

I'm completely new to the Game and i have a point what maybe needs several Opinions. I started playing in PF Society and it needs to fit in there.

I'm having Problems with the Darkwood Shield.
It makes the Heavy Shield lighter thus making it a light Shield with AC2 because the definition of heavy or light Shield in the Core Rulebook is simply the Weight(Light: 5 Heavy : 10).
There is an Option to make a Shield a Quickdraw-Shield if its a Light Shield.
So logically a Darkwood Shield could be Upgraded to a Quickdraw one.
Even the Prizing make Sense Darkwood Shield 257 + Quickdraw 53 = 310 GP.

I'm asking all this since i play A Paladin and want to Take "Quick Draw" Feat and Using a Quickdraw Shield to have both "donned" in the First round.
Or is there an Option to make a Quickdraw Shield +1 AC? Which for me Would have the same Benefit without spending a Feat on it.

Before other Suggest it: I don't wanna go TWF!

Thanks in Advance for Answers and Help!

A Heavy Darkwood shield is simply a Heavy Shield that weighs half as much and has a lower ACP. It is not a Light Shield.


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CyderGnome has the right of it; and PFS tends to be pretty strict about such things.

Grand Lodge

The only advantage that Darkwood gives your shield, is a reduction in your encumbrance. Unlike mithral it has no rule that it changes the weight class of anything that uses it.


Once you have enough money, you can put a +1 enhancement on it. Shield Focus will also increase your AC from any shield, but that's a feat.

Most people just walk around with their shields already equipped and then draw their weapon on round 1. Is there a reason you can't do that?

Silver Crusade

Well it was my First game. To be Precise PFS 3-09.
We played at a mountain and such needed to climb etc. making it unwise to play it as "always quipped" since most thing were surprice encounters.

There was only one "fight" were it would have been excusable to draw it beforehand.

I want high AC for the first Quests since im the only Tank/Healer for now.
But i don't want to sacrifice the +1 AC from a Heavy Shield (compared to a Light one).

My Goal now is it to get a High AC (light) Shield with Quick-draw.
The main Goals to have a "Hand Free" in Shield hand to use Lay-On hands or a Wand that's in a wrist Sheath while using the Quickdraw feat to equip both Weapons (Axe and Shield)fast in one Movement.

I got wiser and realized Darkwood isn't the Answer (at least for high AC+Quick-draw.)

Would a Mithral Heavy Shield (like Lazar mentioned) count as a light one for the Quick-draw and "one hand Free"-Rule since it Lowers the Armor-class by one?

If not (since its PFS) it doesn't make sense going Mithral since its to costly for my purpose and a "real" light Quick-draw Shield made of Darkwood would have the same benefit as a "real" light Mithral one at a quarter of teh Prize.


No, all mithral or darkwood does is to change the weight and armor check penalty of shields. Neither does anything else to the shield.

There is no method for converting a heavy shield into a Quickdraw Light Shield.

Silver Crusade

Well, since its impossible i should Focus on a Light one then.
Any suggestion what Shield/Material i should go for?
AC or High Resistance is more important then ACP or SF.


Quickdraw shields are already over-powered enough as it is, since you can take it off as a free action, attack with both hands on your weapon for much better damage, and then put it back on as a free action right after so that you're still defending with it.


DonKalleOne, why not just get a buckler?

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