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Anyone who's currently running Book 2, check out Wayfinder 14, page 32. There's boggard items and feats. It's really cool. Just an idea in case you were thinking of adding a little something into the mix.
Got a druid, hunter, or ranger who's one-step away from CE in alignment and needs a companion? There's a page for monstrous companions in the book too, including chimeras.
Chris Ballard wrote:
Any chance of print copies of this or the other PDFs?
Not at the moment. Not sure why this and the Throne of Night are behind. I know Gary said last year he was working on updating the pdfs as they were a lot of mistakes in them. I know, I'm writing a blog to update some of the encounters and treasure, and I sent him various "changes" for items missing, spelling mistakes, grammar errors, words not bolded or italicized, etc. That was initial reason he stopped the prints. Not sure what's going on now.
I totally copied and pasted the wrong link. It was lower. Sorry about that. Try this one.
Yeah, Gary made them a few years ago for convention purposes. They have head shot portraits too. He posted them back in the Book 1 thread.
Sparklepants McGee wrote:
Can brand new PFS characters run through this module or are players required to use the pre-gens? I'm about to GM my first PFS game and would like to run this, but my players will want to bring their own PCs. Thanks in advance!
As long as they're no more than level 1, then this is fine for them. I've ran it a few times now. The pregens were just to introduce new players at the time. That said, the iconic pregens are of no actual value as they are 15-point buy, not 20-point buy. Hence why the APG pregens are no longer available for regular PFS.
I have looked at your stuff and not got round to commenting. Mainly because I am still running part 2 and have not worked out in detail all my changes for part 3 , also I tend to only post detailed thoughts on stuff I have already run (such as NPC stats in the part 2 thread) this is because I prefer not to have stuff out in the open where a player could see it. (Not that I think my players look at GM threads for games they are playing in but I am paranoid).
I'm just used to seeing "liked" or "marked as favourite" when I come on here. A few people have either abandoned the threads or the game itself. Throne of Night is even more dead in the water. One guy that frequented on here and through PMs disappeared about four weeks ago.
The final entry of Book 3.
I was thinking of doing Book 4 relatively soonish, but I think I'll take a break for a while. It would seem that my entries are going unread and unliked. Could be because I'm doing too many at once, or what's written doesn't feel relevant to another's game.
I finally watched Battle of the Five Armies today. Mostly because I was waiting to see the extended edition. Bilbo got quite the neat gift. It's too bad the king was too insane to realize he should have kept it for himself, and given it at the end of the fight (much like it was pointed out in How It Should Have Ended). I don't know if Gary had any plans for making something along those lines being available, but even if he doesn't, I thought I'd present a version of it to you guys.
The Thrane's Gift
Note: The DR 5/bludgeoning is the equivalent to a +2 armor property (as suggested by Rite Publishing's "Gash's Bane").
And with this, the story aspect of Book 3 is officially done. Next will be the side quests that were originally given in Book 2 (namely the ring of Princess Iris), as well as a few other things to help stave off boredom for the PCs during their three months of winter.
Wow. I quite literally did this book in a week.
I'm on fire this week. No, not literally.
Also be on the lookout for my update on Bestiary 5 monsters I thought would likely fit. I thumbed through it last night while getting set up for my revisit to this AP campaign. It won't get posted here though. You'd need to follow my Tumblr for that.
Why are you still sticking to the "McBride's waiting for Bestiary 5 to come out to finish up Throne of Night?" OGL content of released books are always going to be claimed by 3rd party folks if they're good enough. Doesn't automatically mean that someone's gonna base their whole product schedule around Paizo's release dates.
I'm not "sticking" to anything. It's not like I'm fixated on it or anything. And you're only half right about the OGL.
As my publisher wrote to me, warning how to write things:
Basically mechanics are fine. Story is off-limits by their OGC declaration.
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It just depends on how involved the books are, and if he's trying to cut corners like so many PFS scenarios and APs that go "see pg X of Bestiary 4 for this creature". If he's cutting it close to page count, he might. The thing is, we have no idea. Everything's a guess. That's all this is for me. And it's all I've got left for straws to grasp on to. Even my faith's waning.
I like that Michael Clarke responded to the article, and found it to be a fair assessment. I can't say I disagree. I will point out two things that are missing from the entry though:
I started running Way of the Wicked again, as of last night, and before everyone showed up, the host player showed me his printed copy of Bestiary 5. There's a ton of aberrations and other monsters in there that I've seen before in the bestiary sections of the released Paizo APs, and I still want to believe that now that it's out, my theory of Book 3 coming out by the end of this year is realistic, with Book 4 close behind. However, if my theory does pan out, and we do see Bestiary 5 monsters in there, that'll likely only make people more upset.
So I was ready for a scenario with my group to do above ground, but they decided they wanted to go underground for a bit (seriously, players can be so aggravating at times). Thankfully, I had the Purple Duck Games Forgotten Encounters - Underground on my external drive, and was able to use that. I got this back in 2011. Totally forgot I even had it (typed "Underground" in the search bar). Turns out that there's a few one-shots that you could use for Throne of Night. Namely "A Cry for Help" and "The Empty Throneroom". They're not that high of CR, but a few templates, class levels, and/or increased numbers can fix that really fast.
Go after Chargammon's treasure (Dragons Unleashed pg 43) that was stolen by the Brine dragon. Have a few trident archons also available for under the sea. She also has a couple of harpoon golems (101 Variant Monsters), coral golem (Bestiary 4), and ocean giants (Bestiary 4).
This is all back on page 2:
Now that Gruesome Dragons is out, consider taking the False God template for +3 CR. It adds to the flavor.
Is this new map (hopefully) going to made available for purchase anytime soon? I'd go buy it right now if I knew where to do so.
That's actually a good question. It was originally just supposed to be a full poster map for the backers. It'd be cool is everyone could buy it.
EDIT: Yeah, it says on there "Kickstarter exclusive" for the poster map. I wonder how long that'll stay the case.
Steve Geddes wrote:
Not all of them. Just the ones that are in the OGL. There's a file for publishers that let you know what you can and can't use. If it's not on that list, it's a no-go.
Kevin Mack wrote:
Yeah, I'd agree with that. Definitely explains why one book would be solely dedicated to just that. Massive lakes, small rivers, then massive lakes again. Hopefully someone in the party has Profession (sailor).
I am curious about the alternate race for going through this. The first book mentioned being escaped slave humanoids, or kobolds. I'd like to see that write-up be a thing.
Kevin Mack wrote:
That's correct. I'm just talking out loud about my own experience where I had to wait for Bestiary 4 to come out before we could do a complete reworking on a race we were looking to convert, and was wondering if he ended up with the same hang up. It could be completely wrong, and outside the box for what's actually going on, but nonetheless I'm curious.
After experiencing it myself for the first time, part of me is wondering/hoping that Book 3 is done, but waiting for Bestiary 5 to be released so he can legally put the book out. The monsters we see in the adventure paths from Paizo aren't legally allowed to be touched for 3PP, but the bestiaries are open content. As a publisher pointed out to me: if it's on the reference site, you can use it. If it's on d20pfsrd then there's a 60% chance you can't. And also because of legality issues, you aren't open to discuss it.
Just another week, and I'll see if my theory's correct. Granted the monster(s) really should have been swapped with something else, but if it's truly the case, you can't always do that. Sometimes you can't rearrange vision.
I'm curious as to how this will come about.
That said, I got reminded of a book by Solace Games called Elves of Darkness. Not great, but lots of play for the drow side of things. Little Red Goblin Games also came out with a races of darkness PDF. I like the idea of a young drider race, and a less weak version of the derro. That said, I'd have given them the -4 Wisdom so they could afford the SR racial ability. But that might just be me. Other than that, pretty solid.
The 15 point buy may be bothering you because of the way you think about it. I'm wondering if Pathfinder is your first system. A frost giant is not no 63 point array. I need to explain this because it's bothering me that you think it's this way.
As for "design", I mean for publication. I mean for figuring things out to makes NPC monstrous cohorts through Leadership. I mean for player characters that are monsters to not seem weaker than PCs and have to try figure out when they level up vs when a standard PC levels up because CR means nothing after a while. I mean for monsters to not seem more powerful with the template as opposed to adding two class levels.
I mean, as per my examples. Like the fighter creature/fighter 1 and the fighter creature/barbarian 1. Doesn't really matter when they get the classes though. It's a design thing. It's fine if you don't want to advanced NPCs like PCs, but this question is meant to cover every basis. Like, what if you take Leadership? You have to advance it.A frost giant fighter creature/fighter 2 should be at least CR 13. It counts as a 16th level fighter with 3/4 BAB. I wouldn't even bother looking at other Bestiary creatures because even Paizo can't stick to their own rules. If anything's getting compared, it's the Creation chart.
Who cares about human base being 10? Monsters don't have that. Monster stats are: three even, three odd. So, when I say 15 point buy when the stats are 10/10/10/11/11/11 to make it 14/14/12/13/9/11, it's exactly 15 point buy. Now, you could argue that it's actually 17 point buy because you'd minmax it so that the +4 always gets put on the 11. That's fair, but it's still not "way more" than 15 points.
Just wanted to point out that I didn't skip a step. Those array bonuses you pointed out equal the 15 point but I mentioned.