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![]() If you're familiar with AAW Games and its release of the "Rise of the Drow" adventure path originally released for Pathfinder 1e but later converted to 5e, then you'll be happy to know that the award winning module now has a direct sequel where you play drow or drider in a revenge plot (ie. evil campaign). Check out the Kickstarter here and read up on the module, premise, background, and see all of that this has to offer. Also, I'm one of the writers for this module, as is reviewer Thilo/Endzeitgeist, AAW Games staff Jonathan Nelson, and David Ross, just to name a few. I hope everyone who backs this, enjoys it to their heart's content. Note that while this module is currently written for 5e, there's been enough people asking for conversions that PF1e and PF2e are very likely after we see how successful the Kickstarter is. ![]()
![]() WagnerSika wrote:
A rescue/kidnapping team sounds good. The final battle has a solar. Have a cleric that's possessed by that solar be part of the team to do an atonement on Richard and rescue him. It also gives a reason for why the solar is present for the final battle besides just having more holy allies. You could also have a half-giant/titan mauler/titan fighter be part of the team, and make it be the child of titan. If you're not opposed to 3pp, it could even be a giant blooded sorcerer with teleportation spells. As for how it all came to be, the whole Richard's mother thing could still be present in the story. Maybe Richard's mother becomes an angel and was the one who had the solar sent. ![]()
![]() Samurai Sheepdog sent out a request back in April for people to come and submit entries for a charity bundle for Owen Stephens, who is currently battling cancer. Myself and many others wrote up boss encounters for Pathfinder 1e, Pathfinder 2e, Starfinder, Cypher System, 5e, and OSRIC. That bundle is being released today, and will have periodic updates as more is added to it. Please consider donating. If you can't, please share this around so that others can donate and share. Every bit helps. ![]()
![]() Braininthejar wrote:
That's pretty good. In Book 7, you're tasked with getting a hydra for the cave. That could also be a show of strength instead of using minions. ![]()
![]() kevin_video wrote:
You accidentally quoted things too many times. It would buff the dragon in his original form, but it's honestly only something you'd give him if he needed it in his humanoid form. That said, this might get Ezra to help because a dragon is difficult to take on, and an undead can only do so much. It's just assumed that the dragon is in its original form always. You could also make a custom item that reduces his size to Medium so he can get around. Make it a monster version of reduce person. It's a 3PP spell, if you're okay using it. Wouldn't be that much of a stretch that ancient beasts like dragons would have access to "ancient" magic. If your group figures it out, and decides to sacrifice Grumblejack for the ritual, they wouldn't be the first to do that. ![]()
![]() WagnerSika wrote:
Appreciate the name drop and shoutout to my old blog. And, yes, the Gates brothers was mine. ![]()
![]() Braininthejar wrote:
If you choose to have him naked and bits hanging out, that's your call. Usually the transformation adds basic clothes. But, no, there's no armor. Could always have the party kill him and his dragon corpse potentially crush them. I've experience that kind of game before (colossal red dragon archmage).
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![]() Inchoroi wrote:
You don't happen to have those available online, do you? Like as a Google Doc? ![]()
![]() I haven't updated my blog in some time, but from time to time I'll get a question from someone who's currently playing the adventure path. This happened yesterday, and the GM was in Book 3 dealing with Izevel the medusa petrifying everyone. I'm sure there are more ways to deal with gaze attacks, but I put down nearly two dozen ways to deal with her in this entry. ![]()
![]() Here4daFreeSwag wrote: Good to has a free 3pp adventure, Throne of Night, player's guide out there for PF1e, kevin_video- plus all the other links too. ;) lol Yeah, you'd almost think I was the one who wrote this thing. It's unfortunate that it ended up on our shoulders to finish things up. Still, want to do my part so other people can enjoy this for what it should be. For ease of use, instead of making people jump from link to link, it's true that I did compile everything together on one Google Doc. I even added the reddit posts. Also, the person who wrote the reddit posts, might (no promises) do another one, but this time based on the map the Kickstarter people were given exclusively. Apparently, there might be a few questionable things on that. ![]()
![]() Reminder that I made a Google Doc with all the links and important information separated for ease of use. I also added the new Reddit posts to it. kevin_video wrote: Finally went through all 30 pages and created an official "resource document" of all the pertinent information on this forum thread regarding the AP.
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![]() The review and fixes for Book 2 is now out, and it's in four parts (all linked in Part 4 of the entry, funny enough, and it links back to Book 1 as well). It's just as thought out and blunt about how Gary put things together, as the review as Book 1. It was a good read about how the errors and questionable plot elements seem very on-point at this stage for Gary's writing. ![]()
![]() Reddit user Zorothegallade has gone over books 1 and 2, done a review, and listed all the fixes that need to be made to each stat block, and there's a few. The review is rather long so each were broken down to a number of parts, linked for your convenience. Throne of Night Book 2 review and fixes.
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![]() Reddit user Zorothegallade has gone over books 1 and 2, done a review, and listed all the fixes that need to be made to each stat block, and there's a few. The review is rather long so each were broken down to a number of parts, linked for your convenience. Throne of Night Book 1 review and fixes.
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![]() Honestly never thought I'd be posting here again, but here I am. Came across a recent (Oct 1st 2022) review on Reddit for Book 1 of Throne of Night, and it also has corrections for NPC and monster stats. After the pages upon pages of errors from Way of the Wicked, and other people commenting errors in Book 1, this person broke it all down and found way more issues than most of us discovered. Honestly shocked that there was this many with just the first book. I'll be curious to see a review for Book 2. The review is well done, and points out some plot line flaws with the drow side of things, saying "FMG forces the idiot ball on yet another villain.", which, the reviewer isn't wrong. Drow are arrogant, but they're not stupid. Overall, a good review and worth the read. ![]()
![]() Loudspeaker wrote:
He might come back, but unfortunately he's been gone from the site for about a year. While it's not completed, you might have to rely on this one or this one. There's also a few Reddit posts of people doing their shot at it. ![]()
![]() James Jacobs wrote:
There's also a 5e version, correct? Or is that just the Bestiary? ![]()
![]() I didn't initially think to post it here, and only posted it on Book 6, but for those DMs still running the game, it'd make sense that I put the link here as well. Here is the link to the online document (which can be downloaded) containing all the known errors in Books 1-7 of Way of the Wicked. These were gathered by multiple DMs who posted on Reddit, all the things they found wrong. It's about 53 pages in length. These are also separate from my own entries, especially the ones where I rebuilt some of the NPCs from the ground up. ![]()
![]() That's a great find. While I was looking for a conversion, I came across a not so nice reddit post about the AP in general, which I posted on Book 6. The main thing I wanted people to be aware of was all the errors for the monsters and NPCs so that they can adjust their own campaigns accordingly. I didn't realize it was quite that bad. I knew it wasn't great as over the years I had emails Gary with my own corrections for the later books, but seeing it all laid out like that... Wow. ![]()
![]() Wow, this is a lot of errors over the course of seven books. It's good to note though, so anyone running this can make adjustments to their own games. That said, the person who did that also wrote an epic reddit post about the AP, and was not exactly kind. The title of it speaks just how much this book hurt them. Literally, the final paragraph describes that the AP affected their mental health negatively. ![]()
![]() Douglas Muir 406 wrote:
Not a complete conversion, but many people online have done at least Book 1. Here's one example. ![]()
![]() Kevin Mack wrote: Hi not sure this is the right place but Kevin_video I seem to recall you having talked to the artist of both this and way of the wicked (I believe same artist for both) was wondering if there was anywhere he had art for way of the wicked up or art prints? Yes, Michael Clarke did the art for both adventure paths. Other than his website, which is mostly Throne of Night art, he didn't have a lot of art for Way of the Wicked uploaded anywhere besides the now defunk FMG website. There are websites that share the art, mostly because they're doing a playthrough online, and the GMs need visual representation for the players. I shared as much of his art as possible on my Pinterest page. ![]()
![]() WagnerSika wrote: I noticed the Nereid grace max Deflection bonus is +6 at CL18. Yeah, I don't know if that's an errata or what. The +6 limit is definitely in the online versions of the spell. I don't have a copy of the 1st printing, which might not have had a limit. Regardless, it's druid/witch 1, so it has to be a magic item. Belinda couldn't cast that on herself unless it was through a wish. ![]()
![]() I don't know who still needs this, but because I get 0one's newsletters, this morning I received a link to the company's Dwarven Depths - Western Outpost map, currently being sold for 99 cents US. And that's not all. Going through their map list, there's an entire series on Dwarven Depths, the Dwarven Stronghold, as well as for their Drow City. There's even a Dwarven Excavation map that's in colour. Definitely no shortage of maps from 0one Games. Thankfully. I hope everyone has been well. ![]()
![]() For anyone looking for more drow content, especially 5e, Midnight Tower is doing a Kickstarter for their 2019 trilogy to become a single physical tome with extra and expanded. It's already reached its goal and there's only one (1) stretch goal left to hit (it's apparently a secret one). If you're done with drow, I totally get it. Wanted to bring to everyone's attention though, just in case. Hope everyone is staying healthy and safe. ![]()
![]() I've already added this to the Resource Page that I linked above, and placed under the "Alternative scenarios and modules to run for your own version of ToN/complete the story" section. Dyson Dodecahedron draws fantastic maps, and what's even greater is he adds little scenarios to each one. Not in-depth, but just enough to inspire the GM/DM and give a basic background that could either be used to elaborate on the story's past and how it's relevant to the current story, ignore completely, or even have the story take place during the background itself instead of in the future. While I've been following his map-making for some time "Heart of Darkling" was a relatively new series to me as he's taken a break from them, and is now getting back into finishing off the series. He's been doing a lot of commissions during the pandemic as lots of people were playing over the past year. Go figure. However, since things are slowing down he's able to get back into it again. The latest map, 14A - Deception's Bridge, discusses xenophobic cavefolk and an intellect devourer. This could be a great lead-in for Book 6's story where there's a LOT of intellect devourers for the party to face off against. Maybe this intellect devourer originally came from there. Other map locations discuss ghouls, ghasts, ice mephits, white puddings, gibberlings (check out the Creature Chronicles conversion; consider adding their trip ability from 4th Ed and a PF1e's grimple gremlin's lice ability), invisible stalkers and mind flayer slaves, derro, deity worshiping gazers (ie. tiny beholders) that might be controlled or influenced (could be the star spawn is who they worship), hags, medusa, and gnomes. Such a huge variety. All of this happens along a specific lake and river. The lake could be the Lake of Violet Mists where the Isle of Seven Horns is, or it could be in another section of the underground entirely. It's totally up to you how you'd want to run it. There's only 17 of the 20 maps currently available, but you don't necessarily need to do all of them. Just little side quests, or maybe by the time you reach the current map that's out, the last three will have been uploaded. More than anything else, I wanted everyone to made aware that these maps exist and they're available for anyone looking to do an underground adventure, or complete one that they're already currently doing. -------------------------------------- Stay healthy and safe. ![]()
![]() Just a reminder that I have a Google Doc that gives a summarized list of everything that's in this thread. Resource Link Page - Throne of Night This is a free resource I made for everyone to view. This link is also in the threads for Book 1 and Book 2. Want to make sure it's available for as many people looking to run this game as possible. We're all in this together. -------------------------------------- Stay healthy and safe. ![]()
![]() Badenn wrote:
Thankfully the second book exists. It's the third and beyond that sadly don't exist. Thanks to everyone here we have equivalent books that'll help GMs and players still achieve some form of finality that both are hopefully content with. ![]()
![]() So, a fellow Canadian who goes by the name of Dungeon Dad, recently did a video on the ascomoid from AD&D and how you could use it in 5e. While this is a PF1e adventure path, he had a brilliant idea during his plot hooks segment that I think everyone could use. (BTW, if you converted this to 5e and want to use his free stat block that he links in the video description, but want it closer to Pathfinder's, just make it resistant to fire and piercing weapons. You could also give it the warhorse's trampling charge ability, but change hooves to slam attack. Be wary though as this might make it a CR 5 instead of a CR 4.) The spawn ability is still present in the Pathfinder version, it's just that it's in the ecology section. The concept is this: someone learned about the ascomoid and has been feeding it the bodies of its enemies, causing the creatures to spawn into more of itself. Eventually, the food supply isn't able to keep up with their hunger, so they burst forth and take over the town, consuming everything. Now, 1 of 2 things could potentially happen. That being either the PCs are in the town when that happens and have to help the townspeople cull the herd, or the PCs show up afterwards and there's just skeletons and a fungus covered city left. Going with the second one, myconids migrate to that city and take it over. There's some cool visuals in the video too. If you go with the second one, it could be a fallen drow city that no one talks about because it's too big of a hit to their pride to admit that they fell to fungus. Ascomoid video
When I saw the fungal jungle pic at 1:19 it immediately made me think of this AP, and I felt the need to share, but that doesn't mean that it couldn't be used for any other underground adventure such as "Rise of the Drow", or a homebrew. ![]()
![]() kevin_video wrote:
I'm not sure how after all this time, I never mentioned that the dusk lantern was a thing. It's a variant hooded lantern lets you see in the dark and those who have darkvision are none the wiser that you're coming. Great alternative to the light spell while traversing underground. As well, if you're playing all drow, or even if you're playing as the dwarves and want another ally, the darklantern vigilante might be up your sleeve for a potential NPC. ![]()
![]() Endzeitgeist wrote: Herzlichen Dank für den Vertrauensvorschuss! Wenn wir es nach Corona mal hinbekommen uns IRL zu treffen, kann ich das Buch auch gern unterschreiben. :) Translation for everyone who needs it (including myself): "Thank you very much for the leap of faith! If we manage to meet IRL after Corona, I can also sign the book. :)" ![]()
![]() No, that's awesome, and I hope the project does extremely well. Look forward to the PF1 conversion so I can give it a proper look. And I love when one project you're working on doesn't work out, but you're able to forward all of that work to another one. You can rest easy that you didn't waste your time. ![]()
![]() I was just reminded of something, and I can't believe I forgot. Selective memory, or maybe I blocked it out.. Gary wrote articles for volumes 7-9 of Wayfinder. Volume 7 is "Rise of the Runelords" as an evil campaign; volume 8 is "Curse of the Crimson Throne" as an underwater campaign; and volume 9 is "Council of Thieves" as a drow campaign. Of course there's lots of references to houses that were to be in Throne of Night. These magazines are all free to download. I added Wayfinder vol 9 to my resource link. If you haven't already run that AP, this could another avenue. ![]()
![]() Wanted people to know that I've been in contact with a third party company that's looking to buy up the Fire Mountain Games IP, but Gary's been too elusive, as is Mr Clarke. The person will keep trying, but until he gets a response, he can't promise anything. However, if he's successful, I will be at the forefront of it getting completed. Anything beyond that, I haven't a clue. Details are sketchy until such times that we can actually get a hold of someone. We're pretty sure it's 100% a fool's errand, but there's still a lot of 2021 left to go. No promises or guarantees on anything, and I'm not looking to get anyone an unwanted sense of hope. Just wanted people to know an attempt is being made. No matter what, even if this actually goes through, this will likely not end up being the original AP that we were all promised. ![]()
![]() Derek Blakely wrote:
Wanted to thank the 17 people who took the time to respond to the questionnaire. Not sure if it would change now, as I'm not sure how recent the last few entries have been, but it's 100% unanimous that you want a Pathfinder 1e written adventure. I admit I did not see that coming. Thought there'd be at least 1 or 2 people wanting 5e. ![]()
![]() PFRPGrognard wrote:
I agree on both accounts about the GM. While it's definitely something that reviewers can easily point out being an issue with Pathfinder 1e, I'm seeing DMs/GMs now saying the same thing about the new subclasses and racial variants of 5e. No matter what, you're going to have that power creep the older a system gets, if it keeps releasing new books and releases more options. It's just that one system has had more years to do so, in this regard. ![]()
![]() Barachiel Shina wrote:
I was fine with them doing a few projects. Going psionics, PoW, and Savage Species was fine for me because they were usually separate people doing the designing, but the same group doing the editing. Doing the other projects was what really kind of killed things. Not to mention edition changes and other systems coming in that they wanted to be a part of. WotC is doing psionics again with the release of Tasha's, but they're a "fixed" version. The psi-warrior and soulknife are pale abstract comparisons to the original. Thankfully they had the intelligence to listen to us complaining that the psi-warrior shouldn't be the psychic warrior. Even then, you give the character a sun blade, and it's straight up a Jedi. Literally no difference. ![]()
![]() That’s hella impressive when anyone’s granny wants to show it off, and it’s not something their child or grandchild made. I have the original 3-parter and helped fund the original Kickstarter to expand it from level 1. I likely won’t worry about getting the Pathfinder version of this, but I’m definitely intrigued by the 5e version. I’ll have to look into what Fantasy Grounds has. ![]()
![]() Endzeitgeist just did a review for the Collector's Edition of "Rise of the Drow". There's both a PF 1e and a 5e version. The PF version has a few flaws in that if your players use every resource out there from Paizo, the AP won't be able to keep up the challenge. At the same time, however, the 5e version is near perfect for challenge. He does go into how this version is different than the original version, which I admit I supported back in the day. Now, it's a complete sandbox. It's apparently nowhere near as linear as it was originally. That's great to know. The sheer number of additional maps is apparently something to drool over as well. You can read his review and get your copies of the new version here. I think it's safe to say that this underground AP would have blown ToN out of the water, even if it did get completed. RoD Collector's Edition is now being considered the epitome standard for how modules should be designed, and that intrigues me. ![]()
![]() So funny enough, the spell I shared was updated to Pathfinder, and the book was one that I believe I remember Gary backing. I can’t double check if I’m right or not as he’s locked his KS account so you can’t go through his list anymore. But you’ll notice, the same name of “penumbral lord Dar’Tan” appears in the description. Also, no more fire descriptor, so untyped damage. And, no verbal component. I will say though that the 5e version of blackflame is significantly more impressive, doing 10d10 psychic damage on the first round. Either way, I’ll share the Pathfinder version of the spell here. Consider revising it further and taking elements of the 5e version. Maybe do my suggested 6d10 and increase that every round. I also still prefer how the original can bypass SR. Made it so much more of a threat to drow and duergar. Also, I’m being more courteous this time and cropping the spell. Blackflame Spell: BLACKFLAME
The penumbral lord and archmage Dar’Tan is known for this signature spell, which causes his target to burst into agonizing, shadowy flames. For many years, it was believed blackflame was unique to him, the only copy secure in his great fortress. Recently, however, the thief Alaria is said to have traded a copy of the spell to a few powerful mages. School illusion (shadow) [fear, shadow]; Level sorcerer/ wizard 8 Casting Time 1 standard action Components S Range medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) Target one creature Duration 1 round/level (D) Saving Throw Will and Fortitude (see text); Spell Resistance yes The target of this spell is engulfed in semi-illusory flames, a shadowy conflagration that manifests as very real wounds on her body. Every round, the target must make a Fortitude save or suffer 3d6 damage. On any round in which she suffers damage, the target must also make a Will save or become panicked for 1 round. Every round the target fails the Fortitude save, the damage dealt increases by 1d6; every round she fails the Will save, she suffers a cumulative –2 penalty on her next Will save against this spell. ![]()
![]() One thing that I really want to see stay, despite other companies saying they should go (and in some cases did toss them when they printed their own books), is NPC classes. However, I want to upgrade them. It makes no sense to me how a warrior 20 is CR 18, but a fighter 5/warrior 15 is somehow CR 19. That makes absolutely no sense. Regardless, back in 3.5 there was a book called, Unearthed Arcana, and what it did was use a system called Generic Classes. At specific levels, you could customize your character by taking a feat or a class feature that you met the prerequisites for. For example, a warrior and an expert got bonus feats at the same level as a fighter did, but nothing else. No weapon training, no armor training, bravery, or any of that. As for class features, if you had Base Reflex save +3, you could spend a bonus feat for evasion. If you of a good alignment, you could take smite 1/day. If you cast divine spells, you could take Turn Undead. Nowadays, it'd likely be channel energy. If you didn't have any prerequisites, you could still spend that bonus feat for a feat, or you could take Favored Enemy +2. Personally, I like that if I had 4 ranks of Handle Animal, I could access wild empathy. That seems like something everyone should be able to gain access to, honestly. In addition, I'd like to see an arcane version of the adept. In 3.5, the Eberron book had one, and they named it the magewright. The main difference with that one was, unlike other NPC classes, it actually got something at 1st, 4th, and every 4 levels afterwards. However, that was also part of the draw back. Every ability was the Spell Mastery feat. Why? Because they could only cast spells they knew. They couldn't learn spells from scrolls nor did they have a spell book. So by 20th level, they had Spell Mastery six times. It was kind of like a weaker sorcerer that used Intelligence instead of Charisma. But, I'd like to see that carried over. Maybe rename it to some like, apprentice. Lastly, I'd like to see a rule that if your NPC class levels are twice that of your base class levels, then your CR is -2. That's honestly how it should be, and originally you see that with the old NPC builds, but then Paizo got rid of that line of thinking entirely for no good reason. At any rate, it makes the NPC classes closer to what the base classes are, and if the base classes are getting another boost, like they might, then the NPC version should get something as well. They'll still never be anywhere close to what a full base class character will be, but even a 10th level commoner should be rewarded in some fashion. Even if all of their feats are put into Toughness, Great Fortitude, Iron Will, and the like. And what I'd really love to see is that at 1st level for each NPC class, is for them to have access to one unique boon or skill. Examples:
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