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Greater Planar Ally, Planar Ally, and Lesser Planar Ally are calling spells. Those bring the real deal to help you out for a minute, a day, or a week per level. Thus those devils can use their summon powers without any restriction.
There's still kind of an issue with that, but I suppose the argument could be made that there are still devils 100% loyal or bound to Thorn. It's only questionable because of previous plot chnage with the contract devil and pit fiend.
@Douglas Muir 406 - Nythoggr can be buffed easily by making him a wizard or sorcerer. This AP was made well before the Monster Codex, but now that it's out, and he's got the HD, just add one of the mage templates to him (preferably sorcerer since he's got high CHA). Being 20 HD, he'll have 7th level spells. You can use spells like bull's strength, regenerate, improved invisibility, greater false life, mage armor, etc. Heck, give him a few summon spells. Bring out beings that can heal him during battle. If you ever want to be an absolute bastard, do what my DM does regularly to his creatures if he things we need a challenge, and use the Warcraft 2nd Edition Monster Guide's "Elite Creature" template.
CR +2 (HD 1-3) or CR +3 (HD 4+)
+4 Str, +4 Dex
Maximize total hp and multiply by 4
+4 to Concentration checks
Gain Great Fortitude, Lightning Reflexes, and Iron Will (gives room to play around with a feat or two if they already have these, and add say maybe Ability Focus)
Admittedly, my group wouldn't have been able to take him down if he stayed up in the air.
@stormcrow27 -- Summons can't summon other creatures. SO if you summon the devils, you can't have them in turn use their summons. Gate is the exception because you're bringing the real deal to the Material Plane. A summon spell just brings a representation to where you are.
From what we know, no, it's not true. The "field trip" was him and his wife's anniversary, and we knew that before the KS started. He was at two conventions, ran his Minion Quest entries for Book 7 of Way of the Wicked, went on the trip, and everyone (including friends) didn't hear from him besides there being something about an intern helping. His artist has been responding to messages, but we don't know the situation.@Kthulhu don't make accusations that you don't have proof on. Yes, he's taking his sweet time. Yes, the KS funders aren't happy. We have not filed a class action suit, but we have informed KS about what's going on. Unfortunately, the company's name is essentially mud right now.
I'd like to believe that he hasn't just completely abandoned the project, and taken the money and run. That would mean throwing his artist friend under the bus.
But I agree that it'll be difficult to find work in the RPG field again, as this project is a year behind, and he's no longer doing the Ogre game either, as someone else was given the project with Gary's notes.
I can only imagine what brought things to this point for him.
As far as products I want to see, I look for material that is well supported by a company or shows promise of future support. I want to see niche areas, which either won't be heavily covered by Pathfinder, if covered at all, fringe themes, rule sets covering non-traditional settings. And I want material that I can easily slot into other fantasy worlds.
Purple Duck Games follows this with their own setting of Porphyra.
I haven't had these issues myself, no, because the DM I have never plays anything straight. Unless he's reminded about a creature's intelligence, he'll sometimes play it like they've got a 20+ in the stat, if it's lower.
Other than that, my only experience with PF is running it.
I do remember reading on encounter with a half-dragon with the dragon bloodline, and the writer had to revise the template significantly because the two didn't mix.
I sympathize on the getting burned aspect of KS campaigns. Trust is hard to gain, and easy to lose. I've had that twice now, although one is still promising results, albeit much, much slower than initially promised. They got burned first by their distributor, but are trying salvage what they can with a different company. That said, the communication has been stellar on her part so I'm willing to wait further.
I love magic items. Especially the Purple Duck Games Legendary items. They're like the 3.5 Legacy items, but less of a hassle, and less expensive. Templates are fun, and give your players a run for their money. Gotta keep them on their toes.
I'm starting to see a lean towards races and bestiaries, and I'm not overly surprised. The reasoning you guys are sharing makes sense.
Pretty much anyone can see it, but it's mostly for myself and other freelancers out there. Right now it's a number crunch. 3PP is still kind of popular, but not as much as official Paizo is, and for obvious reasons. 3PP stuff can't be used for PFS, and there's still the stigma out there that 3PP shouldn't be bought because it's unbalanced and broken, and therefore isn't allowed in that particular GM's game world.
Myself, I've tried to fund a dozen different Pathfinder compatible Kickstarters, but sadly at least half of them never got their funding. Heck, I'd say almost a third never even got to the halfway mark, and they were established publishers. The KS stigma now being "Will I ever get my product because I've been burned in the past?" and "How do I trust that you won't take my money?"
I know a couple of publishers, such as Purple Duck Games for example, are using Patreon so you can see immediate results with regards to your money.
Insain Dragoon is right. What does my splat book give you that others can't? How do I get you to buy my particular item? And the most hopeful answer we're looking for is "Because you literally asked for it." It wouldn't be custom, but if more than 50% of the poll votes say "We want mythic creatures" then that's what you get.
@Forest Guardian Press - You asked about how we see the saturation point. Well, technically we don't. It's more of a guess based on what's selling, and what's not. Last year mythic came out. It was a phase that everyone jumped on the band wagon with. Now, it's not selling too well. It's still seeing to its niche market though. It's about the new phases, and who gets there first, and who's still gambling that it'll be profitable this late in the game.
However, instead of guessing what the public wants, and then telling you "this is what we're releasing so please get it or we'll have wasted our time", I thought it'd be better to ask what you wanted to see. It just seems like the better course of action.
I like the idea of you adding the question of what product from what 3PP would you like to see.
A problem we're starting to see if the market being saturated with Pathfinder pdfs, and they can be either a hit or miss. Unfortunately, even Kickstarter can only help so much as either works and gets funded, or doesn't. Sometimes mythic stuff sells, other times it doesn't. Sometimes adventures sell, other times they don't. Even different campaign settings can catch someone's eye or sneer.
So what I'd like to see from everyone is, what would you like to see a 3PP bring to your table and library of goodies? Race books? Monster books? Templates? Mythic? Adventures? Spells? Magic items? Composite books that have a little of everything? And then, to what extent? Do you want full adventure paths? Maybe a 3PP supplement that adds to the Advanced Race Guide? Perhaps a Savage Species style supplement? Variant monsters of what's in the bestiaries?
I literally don't know what I'm going to do for this issue anymore. I had a few ideas, but with OGL issues, and having to be a little more original so I'm not stepping on Paizo's toes with their canon, I've got nothing. Grateful we have so much time. Maybe by April I'll have something actually worthwhile that I can do.
Pillbug Toenibbler wrote:
They were called the Space Mimic. Here is a 3.0 conversion.
James Jacobs wrote:
That's cool. Appreciate the honesty and the info.
Yeah, I can stat them, I'm just not allowed to use the official names. Same goes for the bugbear mage. That's a little disappointing, admittedly.
Also, the Monster Codex templates can be used for regular publication, but I'm sure it'll just look better for the magazine if we do it the old fashioned way.
James Jacobs wrote:
1) Good to know. Thank you. I'd been told otherwise, and needed the confirmation.
2) Ah. So a huge size mimic and a bugbear spellcaster is fine, just don't call them a house hunter or bugbear mage. Got it. Although giving the bugbear SLA might still seem suspicious. Time to start sifting through the thesaurus.
3) Sorry, I should have specified this was half PFS related. The iconics from the Advanced Player's Guide were built with the 15 point build instead of 20, and were considered unbalanced compared to the others, and were removed from the site. As well, the inquisitor was never built. It's also been brought to my attention that the magus iconic is also without stats. Right now the only iconics anyone can officially view the stats of are the Core, UC, and ACG. All we know is that Chris Lambert said "The APG characters are currently under construction."
James, but three questions for you.
1) Can 3PP use the simple class templates from the Monster Codex, or are those specifically supposed to be used for GMs to quickly stat up monsters without the need to give them actual class levels?
2) Is the house hunter mimic and bugbear mage, which were in 1st and 2nd Edition, considered OGL? I know mimics and bugbears are, and it's mentioned that there are other ones, bigger ones, ones with extra abilities, but those seem more like references to the original releases. If they can be OGL, is that because they're just advanced HD or unique versions, or can you use the original names too?
3) Are we going to be seeing the APG iconics make a comeback? I know they weren't balanced in their original release, and the Core iconics got revised, but it'd be cool to see the APG ones back and in action.
This is exactly why I asked. I'd have felt stupid adding the templates and handing it in, only to find out it's not acceptable.
What's the say on these?
The simple class templates can be seen here. They're from the Monster Codex. Give monsters class levels without actually formatting them with actual levels.
The original version of the creature is in the SRD, but not the adult relatives version. The Pathfinder version mentions how large they can get, but don't have stats. I'm referring to these. I'd like to keep the name too, if possible.
I was hoping to do the bugbear mage, but that might not be OGL. I can't find whether it is or not. They're an ogre mage version of a bugbear.
Tim, still hoping to hear back from you on this...
Are we allowed to use the new simple class templates for Weal or Woe, or should we be doing this old school?
As well, can we add in conversions of old monsters for the bestiary, or do they have to be 100% original and ours? Asking because I want to bring back a monster from 2nd Ed, but I don't want to step on anyone's toes regarding copyright legalities and such.
Robert Crawley wrote:
They're not. Well, one wouldn't be. Antimagic field is a ranged attack. You would have one cast the spell, make sure the other person is out, then cast outside. The person casting it can move outside the field without it following him. It's not flawed, it's just weird.
If it's not a replayable adventure, you can only take a GM chronicle for it once, with possibly one additional time as a GM star replay. Further runs only give you table credit towards your GM stars.
Can you elaborate on that last part? It almost reads like you're contradicting yourself. I read it as "you can play this twice: once for the PC credit, and one possible additional time for a GM star replay." But then you said that it can be ran more times after that just for GM stars. So, which is it? Did you mean that you can run it an unlimited number of times, but only once goes to a PC credit, and all the rest go to GM stars?
As in an actual step-by-step process for everything for the incredibly new GM to PFS.
Namely things like:
Going to be starting GMing soon, and had a few questions:
When you run a game, you're to apply the credit of the tier that your PCs did, to your own character of choosing. So, a tier 3-4 can only be applied to a character of 3rd or 4th level. That is, unless it's 1st or 2nd and hasn't caught up yet. What if you're characters are 5th or higher and you're running a lower tier? Can't apply it so have to build a new character?
Players can only apply credit of a scenario once, unless it specifically allows you to (ie. The Confirmation). What happens when you're pigeonholed into doing the same adventure over and over because you get new players who haven't done that particular adventure, yet you've done it 10 times? (Assume it's not a "Confirmation" scenario.)
Do you still get credit for completing a scenario even if a party gets TPK'd?
Quick question regarding Aurora Magic that I found on d20pfsrd.
The Waterkin kitsune treat their caster level as +1 higher when casting pattern spells. Waterkin with a Charisma of 11 or higher gain the following spell-like ability: 1/day—color spray. This racial trait replaces agile.
Is that legit? Agile is swapped out for Aurora Magic? Seems to me like Kitsune Magic would be the better choice.
Wolfgang Baur wrote:
The product description is wrong. The trollkin PC race was planned, but we ran out of room, and it is not in the adventure. I've sent Liz a note, and put the trollkin on the list for a future update to this release.
Awesome. Looking forward to the update. I know a couple of players who want to try out the race.
Wait a minute. The product description advertises the trollkin as a PC race, but the actual PDF only has a bestiary-esque stat block for them. Am I missing something?
I'm having the exact same issue. What part of the 2d8 HD makes it a PC race?
Also, the trollkin shamam 3 has only 4 HD. Where's the 5th? Or are trollkins only supposed to have 1?
Silent Saturn wrote:
I'd say go for it. While Paizo hasn't expanded on Derro, that doesn't mean others haven't. I'd suggest the Slayer's Guide to Derro by Mongoose Publishing. Take what's said with a grain of salt, but it'd definitely give you some insight.
I was thinking of doing class archetypes as Paizo hasn't done that, from what I'm aware of.
Oh, they'd be legendarily rare. I was thinking of making the very first set of Jarl weapons. If that's acceptable, of course.
Does this mean that articles pertaining to creatures such as gnolls and bugbears wouldn't be acceptable for this issue? Or have less of a chance of inclusion?
Just wanted to check with you before doing any of the preliminaries, but if we wanted to do up magic items, weapons, and/or armor for Wayfinder, would you be alright if it was done in the same style as the Purple Duck Games Legendary style?
Tim, sent a PM regarding a suggestion for this.
Not 100% sure I know what to do for this one. Likely a Weal/Woe, maybe a bestiary (construct), but I'll have to go through what's already been done in previous books so I'm not emulating anything. I like the idea of coming up with a variant PrC for Dragon Disciple, but make you different monsters. There's already a few archetype classes for monsters, as well as bloodlines. Might be a little thin on content, and likely have to think outside the box on this one.
Garrett Guillotte wrote:
OMG! Do this! It'd be like the ultimate slayer.
Jeffrey Swank wrote:
This -- is -- so -- cool, mind explodes!
I was hoping you'd put your two cents in on this.
Garrett Guillotte wrote:
There's a LOT of things that Paizo doesn't think is good enough in general because they're essentially biased on a lot of monsters. Namely dragons.
John Compton wrote:
Apparently it makes it easier to run. I've never ran the adventure myself, but it's been brought up a few times in the reviews, and someone on FB was in need of it for their game. Apparently a number of people required it for one reason or another.