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Goblin Squad Member. FullStar Pathfinder Society GM. 2,487 posts (2,488 including aliases). 12 reviews. No lists. 1 wishlist. 13 Pathfinder Society characters. 4 aliases.


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Brandon Hodge wrote:

Man, I've always hated detect evil. =-)

How to handle:
** spoiler omitted **

Or something like that.

As for the flayleaf and PG-13 concerns:
** spoiler omitted **...

Okay, this actually explains my question I was about to ask. Kriegler has two sets of stats. One at the end, and one in the town description. One of things was not like the other at all.

So basically it's just an editing error.

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I have to admit that I'm a little disappointed that we didn't get a race change. Was really hoping for grippli and any of the elemental races.

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Michael Madison wrote:

The St Louis Pathfinder group keeps a version up-to-date in the Facebook group. It currently has all the scenarios that will be run at Gencon (as far as I know). We're at St. Louis Pathfinder Society and the file is under the "Files" section.

-Michael

Does this just help the individual players keep track of games? I'm looking it over and that's what I can tell.

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Tony Lindman wrote:

I created a web based tracker that I host on our region's web site, but anyone can use it. Feel free to try it out and see if it helps.

http://nwpfs.org/tracker/

Thanks. Took me a bit to realize how to use it. Have to essentially manually copy everything over from the Paizo site. That's cool.

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David Montgomery wrote:
You could try a Google Doc, and then ask the community to X the games they could play.

That's currently what our VL is doing. He put up the games last night, and gave everyone access. Only four people have used it so far, but it's only been about 12 hours.

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Nick Greene wrote:
Honestly, the only thing I have is a spreadsheet detailing how many times a given scenario has been run in the area, but you're welcome to that. Who's played what seems more like a full database than a spreadsheet.

A database makes sense.

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Appreciate that.

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Apologies if this isn't where this should be put.

I've ask our community and our neighbouring community lodges, as well as the FB pages, but no one seems to have what everyone is looking for, and pointed me here. Does anyone have, or in the process of building, a spreadsheet or some kind of tracker that lets you know what scenarios have been ran and who has played them? The answer I see the most is "No, but we do need one. You find a version, you be sure to forward us a copy."

Our community has gotten to the point that it's almost quicker to list what scenarios they haven't played. We're very active on both sides too (standard and core) so it's not as easy as just swapping back and forth. What's worse is we don't have enough new people for low tiers.

This will help us immensely with listing the games online (we use Warhorn) and be more guaranteed to have players show up. I know I'm not alone on trying to discover a way to do this, and I'm hoping someone here knows of something.

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It's unfortunate we don't get anything for the day job though.

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It's been a long time since my last update. Anyone who's been following my blog knows I took a nasty fall, and wrecked both of my arms. I'm now doing better, and thought I'd post Changes I made to WotW--Book 2, part 3.

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A former player of mine is currently running Way of the Wicked. They're partly through Book 2 at the moment, and is hoping that at least Book 4 will be done by the time they're done the campaign.

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Glad to see you still plugging away.

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One of our casual PFS players, who drives to Brandon every couple of weeks, is looking for a game that's a lot closer to home. Anyone got room?

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That said though, it'd be a cool add-on for the vigilante to have.

What I'd like to see all the vigilantes get is a Sense Motive chance to determine how powerful their opponent is, whether in vigilante or social form. Size them up. We've seen Matt Murdock do it with Fisk, and Bruce Wayne with everyone else.

To top it off, how are you a vigilante if you don't get shuriken proficiency? Where's my ability to toss batarangs at my enemies without the need to take the Exotic Weapon Proficiency?

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Thanael wrote:
Lord_Hyperion wrote:


2. "The guy has a writer´s block"

For real. And the baddest case of it I ever heard of! Cause apparently this mysterious writer´s block of Mr. McBride encompasses writing my adress on a package to send me the (already written) WotW books I payed for two f#&%ing years ago.

+1. AllThough I'm in the patient camp this definitely rubs me wrong too. He should send out WotW.

According to the update, he plans to send everything in one giant lump sum. Makes it cheaper, and it'll also allow time for errata and corrections to be made.

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Zaister wrote:
I'm still giving Gary the benefit of the doubt. The new update shows he is still comitted to finishing the project. That is good enough for me, although indeed, he could have been more communicative before. But I dont mind if it takes another year. It's not as if I don't have any adventures left to play.

Agreed. Communication is definitely key for future ventures. I'm hoping he'll still do the Way of the Wicked sequel, but with Hell's Rebels and Hell's Vengeance coming out he'll likely step away from that. No one likes to "challenge" Paizo with similar scenarios. Still, it wouldn't technically be the same as it's supposed to be a "you're a descendant of the conquerors and you have to spread the kingdom's authority to an uncharted island." Still evil though.

Whatever he chooses to do, while I know others have already stated that they won't support Gary's ventures until all of the books come out, as they feel burned (and I don't blame them for feeling that way), I'll go face first like I always do when it comes to his projects.

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Kalindlara wrote:
Hadhayosh.

Yeah, definitely needs an update.

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I thought you could only play and GM Tier 1-2 with a level 2 only once.

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I just want clarification period, regardless of the outcome.

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UndeadMitch wrote:
This. Common sense, yo.

Common sense ain't so common these days, yo.

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Protoman wrote:
kevin_video wrote:
kevin_video wrote:
For the purposes of the Chronicle sheet, I just want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly. For every 1 standard scenario ran with a vigilante or played as a vigilante, you can fill in two lines. So, if you do three tier 1-2 PFS scenarios, the GM fills in six lines. All before July 20th. Yes?
Bump

Yes the GM can have all 6 of the level 1+ lines filled if he judges tables with vigilante PCs for 3 scenarios until July 20th. For the later lines, the vigilante character the GM assigns the chronicle to needs to be in the right level range otherwise no lines gets filled.

After the 20th and until Aug 17, the GM/player would only fill out 1 level-appropriate line per scenario played.

Good. Just wanted to make sure we were doing it right. Doing a whole table of vigilantes, and we finished three tier 1-2 scenarios, a level 2 module, and then one 3-4 tier. So that's eight lines. The hard part will be the next three.

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kevin_video wrote:
For the purposes of the Chronicle sheet, I just want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly. For every 1 standard scenario ran with a vigilante or played as a vigilante, you can fill in two lines. So, if you do three tier 1-2 PFS scenarios, the GM fills in six lines. All before July 20th. Yes?

Bump

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Milo v3 wrote:
kevin_video wrote:


I was thinking more the outsider aspect rather than a deity.
Why would it be an outsider? Xing Tian is specifically an undead. His head was cut off... and then he kept going.

He is a deity who got his head cut off, then willed himself to see out of nipples and out through his belly button. There are other creatures besides undead that can survive with their head cut off, that aren't deities. Some even grow their heads back. Just saying it didn't have to be an undead. If you look at the headless horseman, there's three versions of that creature including an undead and a fey. Just saying.

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Milo v3 wrote:
kevin_video wrote:
Wannabe Demon Lord wrote:

Shenzouzhou/Xing Tian

This. It's pretty clearly the Xing Tian, just called something else for some reason. I'd like to see it in a Bestiary.
It's also an undead. Definitely not a deity (or outsider). It can also use two battleaxes. Almost sad that it has the -4 penalty. Was kind of hoping some form of "Oversized TWF" from 3.5 would have made its way back as a monster ability.
Well... deities aren't going to be in bestiaries so that can't be fixed.

I was thinking more the outsider aspect rather than a deity.

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Wannabe Demon Lord wrote:

Shenzouzhou/Xing Tian

This. It's pretty clearly the Xing Tian, just called something else for some reason. I'd like to see it in a Bestiary.

It's also an undead. Definitely not a deity (or outsider). It can also use two battleaxes. Almost sad that it has the -4 penalty. Was kind of hoping some form of "Oversized TWF" from 3.5 would have made its way back as a monster ability.

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Nefreet wrote:
Like with anything else, you have to find evidence that supports your position, not a lack of evidence to the contrary. I'm not sure how people can add a "-2" behind the "1" on the Chronicle Sheet without digital editing. And if that's legal, then I'd like to add a "-10" to the "Tier 5-9" on Bonekeep 3's Chronicle Sheet so I can play it with a higher level character.

That made no sense. >_>

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I'm curious if we have a monster like Xing Tian somewhere (note: there's two individual links on the name). If not, we should totally get one.

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For the purposes of the Chronicle sheet, I just want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly. For every 1 standard scenario ran with a vigilante or played as a vigilante, you can fill in two lines. So, if you do three tier 1-2 PFS scenarios, the GM fills in six lines. All before July 20th. Yes?

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FLite wrote:
Now I want to play it with a level 0 character...

There's 3PP rules for that. I've done a campaign with my players starting with 0 level characters.

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I'd like to see some bonuses to Bluff and stuff like feints. My avenger didn't trip you, you bumped into him and fell. Superman does it all the time. There should be a social talent that hides it better.

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Ferious Thune wrote:
UndeadMitch wrote:
Ferious Thune wrote:
kevin_video wrote:
I thought In Service to Lore and Master of the Fallen Fortress were specifically a level 1 only scenario.
In Service to Lore is. Master of the Fallen Fortress can be played once as a level 2, just like the other level 1 modules.
MoFF is only Tier 1. Kevin was correct. The Fox's list is still well done, however, and appreciated.

MoFF is a level 1 module, not scenario. Yes, the chronicle sheet only says tier 1, but many things have changed since that chronicle was issued. There is now a single rule for level 1 modules, and it allows MoFF to be played and Gmed once each at level 2 like any other repeatable module.

That same confusion pops up about once a year, because so much has changed with the rewards for that module. I'm not able to do an extensive search right now, but there are multiple threads out there discussing it. Look at the more recent ones 2013 and newer). Somewhere there's also a thread explaining why the chronicle is unlikely to be updated.

So basically it's also +/-1 like the other modules.

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I thought In Service to Lore and Master of the Fallen Fortress were specifically a level 1 only scenario.

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Speaking of unmasking the vigilante, my group and I were talking tonight about there should be some kind of special penalty that states if your identity is found out during the course of the character's career, they have to spend prestige or they gain penalties. Nothing really bad, but there are scenarios that have a good boon/bad boon at the end of the game depending on how things went.

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With regards to the PFS chronicle sheet, does a tier 4-5 scenario still count towards the 5+ Scenario reward if you're a 5th level character at the time?

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Don't want to necromancy this thread, but I'm wondering if there's an updated list that includes season 5 and 6.

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Not sure if it's been brought up, but an official conversion of the OGL Razor Boar would be nice. I didn't realize that all we've got so far is a fan done one.

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Jeff Morse wrote:
kevin_video wrote:
Got a question about this scenario, as it's the 4th one. If the first three are all Tier 12, doesn't mean that technically you'd be at level 13 when you do this?
YEP, you start with 33 XP and pick up 5 as you play it so would end at 13.2.

Very cool. Thanks for the quick response. I've been told by the VCs who've played it both regular and Core that the whole thing is crazy deadly. The gang here is so psyched.

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Got a request. Anyone think they can do up a campaign path that almost entirely focuses around the Blackros Museum?

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Got a question about this scenario, as it's the 4th one. If the first three are all Tier 12, doesn't mean that technically you'd be at level 13 when you do this?

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I concur. This has a large portion of our gripes in one post.

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Dragon78 wrote:

The fighter and thief paths abilities improve when they level but the wizard and cleric paths don't. Why not give them 4th level casting + cantrips so they only need to spend two talents to get up to 6th level casting.

Also since this class is cha based then why not have it's spellcasting cha based for both the warlock and zealot paths.

Would it hurt for the class to add it's Cha mod to AC in hero mode or at least have a unarmored path that gets monk like AC bonuses.

I'd be cool with Brawler AC. You can wear armor and still get the bonus.

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Tels wrote:

Quesiton Mark: Have you ever read the manga Change 1,2,3? I ask, because it might be a possible inspiration for an archetype for this class.

** spoiler omitted **

Anyway, as I was reading the new playtest (I still don't like the class), I was suddenly reminded of the Change 1,2,3 manga I read years ago. If you're interested in exploring the concept more, it's relatively short at, I think, 14 chapters? Something like that. You'd probably be able to read it all in a single afternoon if you focused on it.

Maybe you could use the idea for an archetype, or something. Like, splitting up the talents even further, in a sort of Variant Multi Class, in that half of all talents are used for a completely separate personality, which has it's own social/vigilante identity and powers. Like forgoing the social talents at 3, 7, 11, 17 and 4, 8, 12, 16 in order to gain the abilities of a another specialization with it's own set of talents.

I've been thinking of Marvel's Moon Knight the whole time. He's his own self (a boxer), Spider-Man, Captain America, or Wolverine. I don't see a problem with a vigilante accessing talents or feats that lets him take on other specializations. I look at it this way: if the Kineticist can use be the Avatar and have access to all four elements, then the vigilante can be an avenging arcanist.

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Entryhazard wrote:
Also it's clear that an Extra Talent feat is really needed.

I can't but laugh when I read the sidebar saying that there won't be such a feat because the class and options make the vigilante too powerful compared to other classes to all it to exist. I can't imagine what classes they're referring to.

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Zwordsman wrote:

and that talent now gives you a lot more

Caster’s Defense (Su): The warlock vigilante gains
Combat Casting as a bonus feat and can cast spells in
light armor without any chance of spell failure. At 12th
level, he can cast spells in medium armor without any
chance of spell failure.

Grateful for this.

Kegdrainer wrote:

Looking over the new version, they are okay but I think they need more flexibility. You are going to have the same feats if you are in social or vigilante mode. Maybe an option to have a flexible feat slot for both modes. (One feat for use only in Social, another one only in Vigilante mode)

My other thought is to go with a Jack of All Trades type. Rather than Avenger, Stalker, Warlock or Zealot, use the base class and the base ability for one of them. All talents are available but for the ones like Arcane Training, unless you take it as your base ability, you can only take the first level in it later.

My group also brought this up. We're missing a bard type of character. Someone who's just super knowledgeable. Maybe give them the equivalent of ranger/paladin level spells so that they get something at 4th, and only get a max level of 4.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but is the Warlock still missing the ability to cast arcane spells in light armor?

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So I honestly thought that Mad Rush was gone, but it's actually just unfinished editing. It's in the same paragraph as Living Shield instead of having it's own separate category. I still feel a -6 to AC for pounce is rather much. Especially considering you have to be 12th level to get it. If it was allowed at a lower level, and the penalty diminished by 2 at 12th, then maybe. At that level you're fighting large and huge creatures that will very much take AoO on you, and essentially nothing short of a 1 will miss. Even Dodge and Mobility barely help to mitigate that.

Glad to finally see the Chronicle Sheet. Time to do some retconning.

Also, when the final product comes out, PLEASE!!! have more Social talents available at levels 1-5. Nothing's more frustrating than seeing talents that are only available at level 7 and higher for 3/4 of the list. Every vigilante is practically guaranteed to have the same social talent at 1, 3, and 5. You might as well just give them those automatically as class abilities, and start the talent selection at level 7.

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chbgraphicarts wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
GroovyBoy wrote:
mplindustries wrote:

in four years of playing Pathfinder, I've never seen Disguise rolled once, and in all the time I've played 3rd edition, it was one of the least rolled skills in the book. I think we rolled Use Rope more often.

I can't even wrap my head around this statement...
mpl is right though... it's the "dump skill" per excellence (1,800gp hat of disguise... there you go... rank redirection process begins!)

Which is one reason why so many people are happily expectant of this book:

Having a Skills-focused book in the same vein as Ultimate Combat and Ultimate Magic should add a huge amount of usefulness to skills as a whole, especially those skills that aren't as immediately-useful as ones like Intimidate, Disable Device, Diplomacy, etc.

If rules for social gatherings, massive crowds, espionage, etc. are introduced in the same way that rules for Chases were introduced back in the day, then Disguise could get a major bump for usefulness.

I wouldn't mind synergy coming back.

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Always be sure to check you junk mail. That's where my email from him ended up.

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Blackvial wrote:
I love how people are arguing about if a class should exist without even seeing the book and what paizo has in store for it

It's not even whether it should exist or not. It's more "what practical reason could I have for playing this?" For PFS reasons, for AP reasons, and even for homebrew reasons, when would you ever use this class other than for a one-shot, or for an entire team of vigilantes. That's what some of us are asking.

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Don't know about the rest of you, but myself and a few others have been discussing why this class was invented, and we've all agreed that it's not for players. It's for the GM. This is the absolute perfect NPC villain class. Their alignment shifts, they're immune to scrying in their second identity, they have +20 to Disguise when you meet them, and their abilities "disappear" (for the most part with certain specializations) when they change identities. At higher levels they can Darkman into the crowd so you can't follow, and even be different people that you interact with and might let slip. Hell, they can infiltrate better than some if they've been pretending to be that little old lady down the street for the past year. They could even be the butler. They're the perfect "It was me the whole time." Mark my words, this will be a final boss that's been pulling the strings for an entire AP. Someone's going to write up an amped up version of a Scooby-Doo scenario.

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