Taking 10 on skill aids


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So I don't know is this is a Noob question or not, but can you take 10 to aid another while they take 10 on skill check? This is assuming it's a skill that can be done untrained or that you have ranks in.

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Flintas wrote:
So I don't know is this is a Noob question or not, but can you take 10 to aid another while they take 10 on skill check? This is assuming it's a skill that can be done untrained or that you have ranks in.

The Aid Another rules:

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You can't take 10 on a skill check to aid another.

Note that "Aid Another" is listed in two different parts of the book: Skills, and Combat. (The above is from the Skills listing.)


Flintas wrote:
can you take 10 to aid another

Aid Another: "You can't take 10 on a skill check to aid another."


Wow, can't believe I missed that. Thanks.


No. For many years I thought you could (in 3E), but actually just recently was pointed out that the rules explicitly say you cannot, and the same is true in PF.

I don't understand why not, though. It would seem to be a reasonable houserule.

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Aid Another

You can help someone achieve success on a skill check by making the same kind of skill check in a cooperative effort. If you roll a 10 or higher on your check, the character you're helping gets a +2 bonus on his or her check. (You can't take 10 on a skill check to aid another.) In many cases, a character's help won't be beneficial, or only a limited number of characters can help at once.

In cases where the skill restricts who can achieve certain results, such as trying to open a lock using Disable Device, you can't aid another to grant a bonus to a task that your character couldn't achieve alone. The GM might impose further restrictions to aiding another on a case-by-case basis as well.

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Sweet, I won the ninja war!


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StreamOfTheSky wrote:
I don't understand why not, though. It would seem to be a reasonable houserule.

Because unless you're under penalties, you would succeed every time, essentially granting a +2 bonus per party member on nearly everything.


Grick wrote:
StreamOfTheSky wrote:
I don't understand why not, though. It would seem to be a reasonable houserule.

Because unless you're under penalties, you would succeed every time, essentially granting a +2 bonus per party member on nearly everything.

+1 to Grick. :)


Grick wrote:
StreamOfTheSky wrote:
I don't understand why not, though. It would seem to be a reasonable houserule.

Because unless you're under penalties, you would succeed every time, essentially granting a +2 bonus per party member on nearly everything.

DM can (and should) place limits on how many people can aid you at something. Again, we used this houserule w/o realizing it was one for years and nothing broke down.

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