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Hear me out, I ran Rise and Shattered, am running Return, and I have Revenge. I really liked these APs, and my players do too.
But I'd accept it gratefully if no PC ever gets into a fight with Sorshen, or if there's never an attempt to conquer Varisia by what's left of Zutha. They return to history once more (or Sorshen just gets really into modern statecraft and diplomacy), while their legacy continues to influence Varisia and the world.
There's room for, say, a Rise of the Wannabe Runelords where a bunch of people start picking up the Swords of Sin so they might use them upon each other, or mentions in surviving texts about what Azlanti movers and shakers Sorshen and Xanderghul must have been, deciding to support Xin.
...but wherever the APs are set, I like reading them about as much as running/playing them. There's stuff to enjoy whatever might happen.
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Well, while I absolutely support not killing Sorshen, I think there's still some story to be told with Runelords. Maybe in a few years, I need to catch up to the story with my group, anyway (meaning I am still waiting to even start Return of the Runelords, since the current GM is taking FOREVER to run Strange Aeons, mostly due to sessions failing to materialize).
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IIRC, the only other former Runelord (apart from Sorshen) that is not canonically "dead" is Alderpash. But he's still stuck in the Abyss as a lich and a prisoner.
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I'd have said I was okay with the Runelords being over a decade ago, except Paizo has a way of crafting relevant stories that rejuvenate that bunch. And there's a lot of Thassilonian/Azlanti potential to explore where it'd be odd not to have Runelords make an appearance (albeit maybe not as primary enemies).
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Originally, I intended Return of the Runelords to wrap up the Runelord content... but then I had some fun ideas for runelord content in Seven Dooms for Sandpoint, and that plus Godsrain triggered MORE ideas for Revenge of the Runelords. Also... the runelords stuff is popular and we like publishing stuff that's popuar because in theory that means they sell better and that means us Paizo employees can buy more games! (And food and rent and utilities, I guess...)
At this point, I don't have any plans or ideas to continue the runelord story in adventure form, but New Thassilon isn't going anywhere so we'll certainly return there now and then... but another "R of the Runelords" Adventure Path? Never say never, but feel free to say probably not.
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but another "R of the Runelords" Adventure Path? Never say never, but feel free to say probably not.
Surely the hybrid Adventure Path/Cookbook Recipes of the Runelords is excluded from that, right???
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My group has played through Rise and CotCT. We're playing Shattered Star now. I've got plans for Return and Revenge. I'm also planting seeds for a couple other APs. I'm ok with taking a break from Runelords and Thassilon for a few years, but I'm certainly open to any ideas JJ has in the future.
(And food and rent and utilities, I guess...)
That stuff sounds lame.
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Rattlesnakes of the Runelords sounds like a board game to me.
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Red Dead Redemption of the Runelords, starring Dutch Xan der Ghul and the Xan der Ghul Gang; introducing Sorshie Adler, the spunky runeslinger with a heart of gold and vengeance in her soul!
Takes place in Alkenstar. Coming to a game store near you in 2026.
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Takes place in Alkenstar.Not the Deadshot Lands? Alas.
I believe James Jacobs mentioned earlier this year that there might be an AP in Arcadia "soon-ish." As in within the next couple years or so.
Obviously, it won't be related to the Runelords.
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Royal Rumble of the Runelords. It's Runelord Zutha from the top rope!
But I'd accept it gratefully if no PC ever gets into a fight with Sorshen, or if there's never an attempt to conquer Varisia by what's left of Zutha.
Speaking of Zutha, what happenned to him? From what I heard, one third of his soul cage grimoire got destroyed in return of the runelords, and this somehow destroyed his soul, but what of the two other third, were they also destroyed? From my understanding his grimoire worked like the book of the damned, with a "it pop back into existence if you don't destroy all three parts in quick succession" clause, was it not the case?
Just like the swords of sins (or other intelligent items) that possessed their weilders, I like the idea of the evil grimoire that slowly turn it's user into Zutha, that's a pretty unique way for a lich to come back to (un)life and it's very evocative.
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Speaking of Zutha, what happenned to him? From what I heard, one third of his soul cage grimoire got destroyed in return of the runelords, and this somehow destroyed his soul, but what of the two other third, were they also destroyed?
Per Paizo 'main' canon
Basically while any of the three pieces of the Gluttonous Tome could have eventually allowed for Zutha to return, the specific rital the Return PCs used in concert with their acquired third of the phylactery manifested Zutha's spirit strongly enough that killing it there severed his ability to regenerate from the other two missing thirds. It's a bit of a retcon from how Return and other articles had established how the Tome worked (or at least the ritual in Runeplague changing that was not quite clear), but that's the setting-established status quo.
However, given the previous AP had Xanderghul
and yet is still back again literally anything could happen.