Help for Eyeball familiar from Eyebiter's mesmerist

[Adamarh]

Hi,

I'm trying to make a Mesmerist (Eyebiter) and i was wondering what to do with the Eyeball Familiar :

- First of all it does not have fast healing so how does it heal? If you put it back it heal with you when you rest or receive healing? Do you need to heal it alone?

- It has no set Hit Die, base saves, or skill ranks of its own so how does the sage archetype work? The sage archetype give 2 rank per level of the master and since the familiar INT increase a lot then it should gain more SP but since you cant add more rank thant your level/HD to a skill does that mean that it cant even put rank in it?

- If i cant use the Sage archetype is there any other fun/usefull archetype?

-What would happen if someone cast regeneration on the character while the eyes is away? Does it grow back and i have 3 eyes?(one of them floating cause he cant come back)

[Sphynx]

Rules

It gets fast healing 5 when attached to the Mesmerist. In all ways except appearance, it is a tumor familiar.

[Adamarh]

Sphynx wrote:

Rules

It gets fast healing 5 when attached to the Mesmerist. In all ways except appearance, it is a tumor familiar.

Eyebiter

An eyebiter imbues one of his eyes with limited sentience, so that he can pluck it out and allow it to move on its own. The eyeball familiar functions similarly to the tumor familiar alchemist discovery (Pathfinder RPG Ultimate Magic 17) except as follows. The eyeball familiar does not have fast healing. The eyeball familiar doesn’t resemble an animal, and its size is Fine for a Medium or smaller eyebiter (or one size category larger for every size category the eyebiter is larger than Medium). It has a fly speed of 20 feet (perfect maneuverability) and no physical attacks (though it can still deliver touch spells once the eyebiter has reached 3rd level). The eyeball has a Strength score of 1, a Dexterity score of 12, and a Constitution score of 10. It has no set Hit Die, base saves, or skill ranks of its own, though it uses its master’s when a familiar normally would. It doesn’t grant its master any familiar bonus, nor can it ever be an improved familiar.

No it doesnt gain Fast healing this is why i'm asking :/

[I grok do u]

Adamarh wrote:

I'm trying to make a Mesmerist (Eyebiter) and i was wondering what to do with the Eyeball Familiar :

- First of all it does not have fast healing so how does it heal? If you put it back it heal with you when you rest or receive healing? Do you need to heal it alone?

You can heal it alone while it is not attached. When attached, neither the archetype nor the discovery specify, but usually such cases do not allow separate targeting. It should still heal normally with rest. Not RAW, but I would allow the mesmerist to choose whether a healing spell/effect affected himself or his eye (but not split it without improved spell share or similar ability).

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- It has no set Hit Die, base saves, or skill ranks of its own so how does the sage archetype work? The sage archetype give 2 rank per level of the master and since the familiar INT increase a lot then it should gain more SP but since you cant add more rank thant your level/HD to a skill does that mean that it cant even put rank in it?

Sage rules override the skill ranks per HD limits of a familiar and change the max to master's level.

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- If i cant use the Sage archetype is there any other fun/usefull archetype?

Valet is always great for a crafter, and mascot could turn your party into the Graeae.

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-What would happen if someone cast regeneration on the character while the eyes is away? Does it grow back and i have 3 eyes?(one of them floating cause he cant come back)

I would say the regeneration would have no effect on the eye unless it was destroyed; the mesmerist still has two eyes, even if one is wandering off.

[Adamarh]

Thanks , i didnt saw the "its maximum number of ranks in any given skill is equal to its master’s class level", i'm blind --', so it mean that his skill per level is like 2+mod INT, is there a way for it to gain more ?

[Sphynx]

I apologize if I came across short Adamarh, tried to answer from memory on a phone before losing reception. Sorry for the misinformation.

[Mysterious Stranger]

There is nothing in the description that says it does not heal normally. The description states it does not gain fast healing, but nothing in the description of eyeball familiar or tumor familiar states they do not heal like a normal creature. There is also nothing stating you cannot use magic to heal them.

I would treat it as a normal creature for all purposes. It would require separate healing from the character but would heal normally even when joined to the character.

As to the regeneration I agree with that not having any effect unless the familiar is dead.