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I'm planning to run Kingmaker AP soon and would like to further develop the concept of the Aldori Swordlords as a political force in Brevoy.
On my game (and based on several ideas disseminated on the forums), in addition to rigorous training and a solemn oath - the Aldori Swordpact -, candidates for the Aldori Swordlords must abandon their family surname (and consequently any title or line of succession).
On one hand, this requirement makes the organization very attractive for any second son/daughter and/or low-born citizen seeking social ascension and prestige. Being an Aldori Swordlord would represent the perfect opportunity to rewrite your own story, untied from family bonds and obligations, and free from the weight - and sins - of your past surnames!
On the other hand, it creates another problem: how to resolve issues involving the assets and property owned by deceased Aldori Swordlords?
Giving some thought to it, I believe it would make the Free City of Restov a fruitful environment for barristers and devotees/clerics of Abbadar dedicated to providing legal services, most of them specializing in the resolution of real estate disputes and other complex problems.
In the same sense, wills would be extraordinarily common and appreciated legal instruments!
In the absence of any will or equivalent document, would the estate of the late Aldori Swordlord pass to the organization (which could distribute his lands, titles, and other assets as it pleases, perhaps even opening disputes involving duels between the interested parties)?
What do you think of this (or how did you solve this problem in your campaigns)? I'd like to think about these sorts of things ahead of time because I'm planning to make Brevoy, the Aldori Swordlords, political machinations, and the impending civil war a significant part of my game, and that would help make the setting richer and the organization more believable.
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I like this idea a lot.
It'd also placate the Brevoy Houses as no Swordlord could also be a member of a rival house.
One way to do things is to establish a Master/Apprentice relationship as common to Swordlords. Each major Swordlord would have an apprentice and leave stuff to their Apprentice in the evnt of their death.
Wills also seems like they'd be very common and that works just fine.
Swordlords can also have children themselves and can leave stuff to them.
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I like this idea a lot.
It'd also placate the Brevoy Houses as no Swordlord could also be a member of a rival house.
One way to do things is to establish a Master/Apprentice relationship as common to Swordlords. Each major Swordlord would have an apprentice and leave stuff to their Apprentice in the evnt of their death.
Wills also seems like they'd be very common and that works just fine.
Swordlords can also have children themselves and can leave stuff to them.
This ginormous thread from forever ago when we ran our Kingmaker game (spanned 8 years of RL time) has a bunch of info about how I set up and ran the Swordlords politically, including NPCs, motivations, Houses in Brevoy and Mivon, etc. Also, a lot of stuff with politics.
Redcelt's Game of Thrones in Brevoy
You may want to peruse the PF1 Kingmaker forum for more of these type of thread since there are a number of very popular ones there from Dudemeister, Pennywit, and many others who I am embarrased to say to dont remember well anymore.
I'm planning to run Kingmaker AP soon and would like to further develop the concept of the Aldori Swordlords as a political force in Brevoy.
On my game (and based on several ideas disseminated on the forums), in addition to rigorous training and a solemn oath - the Aldori Swordpact -, candidates for the Aldori Swordlords must abandon their family surname (and consequently any title or line of succession).
On one hand, this requirement makes the organization very attractive for any second son/daughter and/or low-born citizen seeking social ascension and prestige. Being an Aldori Swordlord would represent the perfect opportunity to rewrite your own story, untied from family bonds and obligations, and free from the weight - and sins - of your past surnames!
On the other hand, it creates another problem: how to resolve issues involving the assets and property owned by deceased Aldori Swordlords?
Giving some thought to it, I believe it would make the Free City of Restov a fruitful environment for barristers and devotees/clerics of Abbadar dedicated to providing legal services, most of them specializing in the resolution of real estate disputes and other complex problems.
In the same sense, wills would be extraordinarily common and appreciated legal instruments!In the absence of any will or equivalent document, would the estate of the late Aldori Swordlord pass to the organization (which could distribute his lands, titles, and other assets as it pleases, perhaps even opening disputes involving duels between the interested parties)?
What do you think of this (or how did you solve this problem in your campaigns)? I'd like to think about these sorts of things ahead of time because I'm planning to make Brevoy, the Aldori Swordlords, political machinations, and the impending civil war a significant part of my game, and that would help make the setting richer and the organization more believable.
Redcelt had some great ideas (and a fine choice in profile picture), I'm using some of what he put together...
I'm going to make the swordlords corrupt. "Oh no, they are the good guys!" Nah, I see them as a little naïve when it comes to politics and the game of thrones, except Jamandi. She is also a rare half-elf, and doesn't play with the same limitations of human lives. She is not the most senior lord, but I am setting her up as the most politically active, the risk-taker, and her husband has quite ample wealth as well (and is also corrupt and broke his vow of giving everything up, but is very helpful to the pcs). One of their agents, a new lord of the stolen lands, was more idealistic and true, but failed and perished to Hargulka. Victims were apparently eaten.
To keep it simple, yes, the swordlords estate is considerable and growing. The various swordlords symbolically got rid of their wealth and title but kept plenty squirreled away and have built upon it (as well as armed and trained plenty of men) over the years. The Rostlandi do not call them out on this, they would cut people down. Brevoy does not recognise their nobility or lordship for one second, as their independent thoughts certainly breaks from Brevoy culture and Agnatic primogeniture (that allowed King Noleski to take power).
Jamandi and husband Ferox Aldori have a hold of most of the swordlords' estate, but certainly not all. They will talk to and shepherd the pcs the most.