Clarification about the Invisible Stalker


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If an Invisible Stalker picks up an item, does said item become invisible?

I think any gear they carry (up to their encumbrance limits) becomes invisible, just like it does with the Invisibility Spell.

However, I would like to hear your thoughts on the subject.


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

Nah. They just have transparent bodies. It is a feature of their biology,not a magic spell cast on them. And if they were intended to make equipment invisible they probably would have been given some equipment in their stat block.

Plus, nothing in their stat block says they do that or likens them to you the Invisibility spell. Their natural Invisibility very specifically defines what it does. If it was just like the spell they could have just said it had the spell as a constant thing or whatever.


Canonically an invisible stalker politician is well known and identified by a distinctive full-body set of leather armor. Master Phade. Not exactly a rules source, but I think it shows an intent for invisible stalkers not turning their gear invisible. Also

Invisible Stalker wrote:
Naturally Invisible The invisible stalker is invisible at all times, though when it takes a hostile action of any kind, it is hidden instead of undetected until the start of its next turn, as the vague outline of its humanoid form is faintly visible for a short period of time.

As Captain Morgan said, this ability does not imply that it works like the spell invisibility it just gives the stalker the condition invisible.


Paradozen wrote:
Canonically an invisible stalker politician is well known and identified by a distinctive full-body set of leather armor. Master Phade. Not exactly a rules source, but I think it shows an intent for invisible stalkers not turning their gear invisible. Also
Invisible Stalker wrote:
Naturally Invisible The invisible stalker is invisible at all times, though when it takes a hostile action of any kind, it is hidden instead of undetected until the start of its next turn, as the vague outline of its humanoid form is faintly visible for a short period of time.
As Captain Morgan said, this ability does not imply that it works like the spell invisibility it just gives the stalker the condition invisible.

Thank you for the clarification.

I would have gone the wrong way with it.

A quick follow up question:

Since an Invisible Stalkers can interact with items (like wearing a full-body set of leather armor), would you rule that throwing paint, flour, oil, etc. on one would cause it to become Observed, or Hidden at the least.


Urlord wrote:
Paradozen wrote:
Canonically an invisible stalker politician is well known and identified by a distinctive full-body set of leather armor. Master Phade. Not exactly a rules source, but I think it shows an intent for invisible stalkers not turning their gear invisible. Also
Invisible Stalker wrote:
Naturally Invisible The invisible stalker is invisible at all times, though when it takes a hostile action of any kind, it is hidden instead of undetected until the start of its next turn, as the vague outline of its humanoid form is faintly visible for a short period of time.
As Captain Morgan said, this ability does not imply that it works like the spell invisibility it just gives the stalker the condition invisible.

Thank you for the clarification.

I would have gone the wrong way with it.

A quick follow up question:

Since an Invisible Stalkers can interact with items (like wearing a full-body set of leather armor), would you rule that throwing paint, flour, oil, etc. on one would cause it to become Observed, or Hidden at the least.

Yes. The rules for invisibility actually address that exact thing.

CRB 467 wrote:
Other effects might make an invisible creature hidden or even observed but concealed. For instance, if you were tracking an invisible creature’s footprints through the snow, the footprints would make it hidden. Similarly, throwing a net over an invisible creature would make it observed but concealed for as long as the net is on the creature.


Thanks for all the support. You guys are awesome.

I am introducing an NPC villain who is an Invisible Stalker with a Greater Hat of Disguise. Should be fun.


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

They'd have to ditch the hat to actually be invisible, wouldn't they? Since the hat makes itself look like another accessory but not invisible.


Captain Morgan wrote:
They'd have to ditch the hat to actually be invisible, wouldn't they? Since the hat makes itself look like another accessory but not invisible.

Sounds like the time for an NPC to research the spell Conceal Hat

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