It says choose a second deity. So could I pick any deity as long as the alignment requirement is met?
Bonus Question:
Is it possible to have Achaekek as a deity bad somehow gain the Decay Domain?
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
"You must meet their alignment requirements, and you are subject to their edicts and anathema." You just have to follow the 'alignment requirements, edicts and anathema'. So as long as you follow all of that, you're good.
So Achaekek has Alignments LN, LE, NE
Gods that grant Decay with those alignments
Apollyon LE, NE
Ghlaunder NE
Kerkamoth LN
Mother Vulture NE
Shyka LN, NE
The Green Mother NE
Trelmarixian LE, NE
Urgathoa LE, NE
Xhamen-Dor NE
Thanks a lot, that's quite the feat!
| 3 people marked this as a favorite. |
Also a very educational feat - I had no idea what syncretism was, and it's a fascinating subject. :)
Is there any way to choose a second deity and have access to his/her domain spells (not powers)?
Ie. I'm a cleric of Gorum and trying to get access to haste.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Splinter Faith
Nope, there is no feat that allows you to take on other gods spells.
You can get Haste with dedication bit that's gonna cost you a few feats.
If you want a great Warpriest God with Haste, Ragathiel is there (disgustingly too good of a Warpriest God, mechanically unless going evil you are probably nerfing yourself for not taking it).
Syncretism is really cool, both for fluff & RP, and mechanically. For CC, it's basically "get that shiny domain that the deity you want doesn't have. For WP it's "you love that deity but it has a bad weapon? No problem we get you covered"
I have a question about Syncretism... you gain the focus spell of the domain of your "secondary" deity, but does it give an extra focus point?
Unfortunately, no. It gives you the domain as per Expanded Domain initiate which doesn't mention getting a focus point.
As far as I can tell Cleric (without dedication or archetype) can't get extra focus points until lvl 8.
Not quite on note but I think it would be cool to be able to choose syncretism as champion, you could just cound as warpriest for it
Would certainly be of some interest for a number of characters
Not quite on note but I think it would be cool to be able to choose syncretism as champion, you could just cound as warpriest for it
Would certainly be of some interest for a number of characters
I can I understand the appeal for a Champion, but I think it is better if it stays Cleric Only,Champions already have access to more Focus Spells than just Domains (and will keep getting more), as well as full access to Martial Weapons.
Can anyone tell me how does Splinter Faith work? I would like Hideous Laughter from a Deity, I'm level 11. The edicts and anathema work with my current God.
As far as I understand it
1. You pick Splinter Faith
2. You create Tenets for your splinter faith (which should not conflict (too much) with your deties tenets)
3. choose 4 domains (3 from your deity, regular or alternate, with one free pick as long as it goes not against your deities anathemas)
3.b if the free pick is not on your deities list it is one spell level lower
So, since Hideous Laughter is a not a domain spell you won't get it via splinter faith
you would get it as granted (cleric) spell if your deity is Bes, Kufosachi or the Lantern King
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
There is currently no way to get spells from another Deity than yours as a Cleric.
Oracles can get access to spells of any Deity that share one of the domain they have access to though, not sure if that helps.
As far as I understand it
1. You pick Splinter Faith
2. You create Tenets for your splinter faith (which should not conflict (too much) with your deties tenets)
3. choose 4 domains (3 from your deity, regular or alternate, with one free pick as long as it goes not against your deities anathemas)
3.b if the free pick is not on your deities list it is one spell level lowerSo, since Hideous Laughter is a not a domain spell you won't get it via splinter faith
you would get it as granted (cleric) spell if your deity is Bes, Kufosachi or the Lantern King
you guys are almost saying conflicting things :S So if my deity is Raumya, for my free domain pick could I take Kurgess? The tenants do not conflict. Would that mean I could gain access to Haste at one level lower?
With Syncretism through my second Deity do I get access to his spells? Or is that also not possible? Someone please give me some good news here :)
No, you only get access from another deity, either to 1 domain as a cloistered cleric, or their weapon if you are a Warpriest.
At the current stage, like I said, there is no way for the cleric to get access to the additional spells granted by another Deity.
It might be that a later Doctrines allows that wit syncretism,the feat does leave the door open for that kind of thing.
Ugh that Divine list is hurting my friend
The wording of Syncretism is kind of odd though. It says choose one of their domains but then Expanded Domain Initiate says one of their alternate domains. So can u choose any of their domains including alternate domains or just their alternate domains as per Expanded Domain Initiate.
Also, PFS says to ignore the last part about if you are not those types of Clerics but that would apply if u took the feat as a deadication because you dont choose a doctrine. Seems odd to remove that text for those instances.
Perhaps if they didn't consider it a valid option for Dedication clerics part of the prereqs should have been having a doctrine.
After reading it a couple times im pretty sure Syncretism was intended to give the effects of Domain Initiate instead of Expanded Domain Initiate. Otherwise the wording is all awkward.
I agree with Yigg here "The wording of Syncretism is kind of odd though. It says choose one of their domains but then Expanded Domain Initiate says one of their alternate domains. So can u choose any of their domains including alternate domains or just their alternate domains as per Expanded Domain Initiate." Does anyone know the answer?
|
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
I agree with Yigg here "The wording of Syncretism is kind of odd though. It says choose one of their domains but then Expanded Domain Initiate says one of their alternate domains. So can u choose any of their domains including alternate domains or just their alternate domains as per Expanded Domain Initiate." Does anyone know the answer?
Source Gods & Magic pg. 105Cleric
PFS Note Remove the final sentence of Syncretism that specifies the feat’s benefit if your cleric doctrine is not cloistered cleric or warpriest.
Prerequisites you follow a deity
You have come to see the overlap between two deities’ teachings. Choose a second deity. You must meet their alignment requirements, and you are subject to their edicts and anathema. If you are a cloistered cleric, select one of that deity’s domains, gaining the benefits of the Expanded Domain Initiate feat with that domain. If you are a warpriest, you gain the favored weapon of that deity as a second favored weapon, and it gains the benefits of feats and abilities you have that affect your deity’s favored weapon, such as Deadly Simplicity. If you have a different doctrine than cloistered cleric or warpriest, either apply whichever of the above options is most appropriate for your doctrine, or, at the GM’s discretion, add a benefit from the second deity more closely tied to your doctrine.
You don't actually gain the Expanded Domain Initiate feat, you just gain the benefits of it ('You gain access to that domain and an initial domain spell for that domain') with the single domain you selected from your second deity instead of with the normal 'one domain from your deity’s alternate domains.'
Presumably, they just didn't want to potentially give the cleric another focus point at level 1...