BigNorseWolf |
Yeah, Michael B Jordan wasn't the reason the reboot failed. But as for whether we'll get a black Mister Fantastic...eh. I mean let's consider the fact that Nathaniel is DISTANTLY related to Reed by at least a few centuries. But still.
By the 31st century He'd be distantly related to nearly everyone on earth at the moment. It's why he had to have the blip undone : it would have knocked out half his ancestors otherwise.
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
Bjørn Røyrvik |
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Finally got around to seeing this and it is the best of the recent batch of Marvel shows so far. That doesn't mean it was amazing, just that it was entertaining start to finish.
I'm rather annoyed at the change of character of Loki, going from megalomaniac mass murderer to semi-whiney protagonist. Tons of questions like how do variants become genderswapped or alligators, and why is the TVA staffed only by humans with pseudo 60's tech design and very American style clothing, bureaucracy and set design? I know the meta reason why, but in universe it is pretty weird. The Void was a terrible name, and the method and details of pruning timelines left a ton of questions.
One of the biggest surprises is Owen Wilson being entertaining and not extremely annoying. Granted I haven't seen him in anything since ....forever (Shanghai Knights, maybe), so I don't know if this is recent development or not.
We'll probably watch season 2 when it rolls around, but my breath is not bated.
ericthecleric |
I noticed yesterday that (on Disney+), just as there was for Wandavision, there are more "making of" programmes for Loki and The Falcon And The Winter Soldier. Just search for "assembled" on Disney+.
Note that there are spoilers in the documentaries for those who haven't seen the full series.
All definitely worth a watch! They are about an hour long each.
DeathQuaker RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8 |
Anyone else watching season 2?
I'm tired of time travel and tired of Marvel setting up its next big thing, and I want to be tired of Loki the character, bot Tom Hiddleston is just so damn good. As is the rest of this cast.
So glad Ke Huy Quan (it is very early in the morning so I am sorry if I misspelled it) is having his time in the spotlight. Love him as Ouroboros.
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
I'm definitely enjoying it. Pretty much every single minute of the show I have no idea what's going to happen next, and love that. Even great shows tend to follow a certain amount of formula each episode, but Loki manages to keep me guessing throughout.
To be fair, I don't think I'll ever be tired of time travel, and still not tired of MCU in any way.
Mark Hoover 330 |
I'm liking S2 so far. Scenes like the automat, interrogation of X5 or others where there's plot development alongside moments of genuine character. I really like long, single takes like walk-and-talks that keep the tension because of the kind of shot, even when the characters are saying banal things. Like, over and over this show reveals that you can have people that act like real people while also having a riveting super hero thriller.
Some of it's confusing. Loki, god of mischief/magic guy, fights TVA in large open room with knives. Trying to piece together that Brad Wolf went back to his life on the sacred timeline long enough to make Zaniac but there's no telling how much time passed for Mobius/Loki from E1 to E2. The time loom.
The cons for me so far don't outweigh the pros. I've got the same fatigue everyone above has mentioned, but I like that the show gets back to the central premise at the heart of Marvel comics: regular people that just happen to have superpowers/tech.
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
I'm not recalling the Loki fighting TVA with knives scene specifically, but if it was IN the TVA home realm/base, it was established in S1 that magic doesn't work there, and Loki was limited to just physical things and normal trickery. Similarly, the infinity stones don't work there.
It's unclear what other power restrictions may exist in the TVA, but their time travel tech does. Would be interesting to know if other super powers and or high/tech works or doesn't - would Iron Man armor fail, would mutant powers, etc?
Bellona |
I thought that Loki's problem with using magic in the TVA was due to the prisoner's collar which he was wearing, not the nature of the TVA itself?
And wasn't the drawer-full of Infinity Stones more a statement about how there's one set in each parallel reality? If the TVA had been pruning each new variant time-line as it cropped up, then it stands to reason that they'd pluck out that time-line's Infinity Stones to prevent anyone from mis-using them - particularly against the TVA's agents.
DeathQuaker RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8 |
I thought that Loki's problem with using magic in the TVA was due to the prisoner's collar which he was wearing, not the nature of the TVA itself?
And wasn't the drawer-full of Infinity Stones more a statement about how there's one set in each parallel reality? If the TVA had been pruning each new variant time-line as it cropped up, then it stands to reason that they'd pluck out that time-line's Infinity Stones to prevent anyone from mis-using them - particularly against the TVA's agents.
No, I believe the indication was that while--yes, they had plucked a bunch from other timelines, the stones don't work in the TVA, nor does any magic. I think even Wanda would be powerless in the TVA (and think about it, there's gotta be a few pruned Wanda variants).
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I actually think we could get Tom as Loki again in stuff, maybe Secret Wars, maybe What If? season 3, etc. But don't think we'll get him in Loki TV show anymore. And I think we're more likely to get Sylvie and the rest of the TV in other stories than their own for quite a while. It would be pretty awesome if Sylvie shows up in Thor 5, and he says "who are you?" to which she replies "Loki" and just takes up the Asgardian Loki frenemy to Thor role.
Mark Hoover 330 |
When he was found by Odin, Loki was a scared little baby on a rock left to die. His whole life he grew up in the shadow of his half brother; while perhaps his mother taught him magic or his father showed him combat, neither really heaped their love upon him.
Loki's "friends" in the movies were Thor's allies who tolerated him so long as Thor was around. By the time we meet him Loki is a conniving villain, bent on domination. The Loki we come to know in S1 however exposes his truth; it was all a facade to shield himself from the rejection he's felt his entire life.
In S2 Loki proclaims to Sylvie that he doesn't want to be alone. All through the season he seems to demonstrate a genuine care for these mortals, feelings he didn't have about anyone else except perhaps his brother. All that scared little boy ever wanted was connection, belonging, not to be left alone.
The final shot of the season broke me. That was the absolute definition of bittersweet. I'm guessing we'll get more of Tom's Loki; he's good for the bottom line after all. But to finish his arc in the series in that way, in that moment.
That was cruel, even for him that was cruel.