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Maybe next time, Pan.
This would have been so much better if he performed a Picard Maneuver at the end on his coat :)
Picard is likely a diplomat now. Destroying everyone in front of him with infinitely blueshifted radiation is probably going to be taken as an extremely hostile act.
Hmmm? Oh, you don't mean that Picard maneuver, you mean the other Picard maneuver.
I hope they don't oversaturate the market with Star Trek like the way Disney is doing with Star Wars. There's a rumor of at least a Captain Pike miniseries spinning off Discovery.
Cape,
I'm assuming so. But I could be wrong. What I am impressed with is that his FEELS like the continuation of stuff from ST: NG, DS9, and Voyager all done properly.
I wonder if it's the original actor playing cards with Picard at the end.
Yes, that's quite obviously Brent Spiner, albeit under a bit more makeup than back in the day, and he attended the Comic-Con panel.
As well as Seven and B4, who play a larger role, the panel also confirmed that Hugh Borg, Riker and Troi will also be back, although it sounds like Riker and Troi might just be a cameo.
Probably for the best, them cameo-ing. Will takes up too many scenes I felt.
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I hope they don't oversaturate the market with Star Trek like the way Disney is doing with Star Wars. There's a rumor of at least a Captain Pike miniseries spinning off Discovery.
I think Star Trek is a little less vulnerable to this than Star Wars...there have been periods of time when multiple series overlapped, and I think the setting and themes are not quite so narrowly focused as with Star Wars
I think you're right about this. It never occurred to me before and it makes a lot of sense.
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Oh wow, that new trailer is something. Suddenly I am very excited for this and very glad to be Canadian cause We're getting it on our Space channel and I don't need to pay for a streaming service to watch it.
Also it's giving me a weird kind of Firefly vibe. This is not Picard on a Federation ship. This is a small ship with a much closer group of people. Not as clean, not as shiny but still people who are loyal to Picard the man, not the uniform.
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Grey,
Which is good, because while Janeway was a decent captain, I'd trust Picard more. He might be fallible, but he always struck me as the most...moral maybe? of all Starfleet captains?
Star Trek: Picard | NYCC Trailer, premieres January 23rd, 2020 on CBS All Access.
I really hope this doesn't turn into a band of plucky renegade, outsider heroes always one step ahead of the law, because that's sort of what it's coming across as to me.
... Holy crap that was fantastic
Not only was it fantastic, but it was also a complete surprise. Somehow I have CBS All Access set up on my Roku device. I have never tried to access that app before and I certainly haven't subscribed. But by golly there it was, and I watched "Picard". I absolutely loved it. I can't wait to see where it goes. That is if CBS doesn't realize I'm watching it for free.
What was??
First episode was on CTV SciFi up here in Canada.
It was fantastic
and I'm not telling you more than that cause the the moment I realized what was going on, was so great I don't want to deprive anyone else of it.
It just hits and you are like ....Holy Crap?!
and it's awesome
To borrow The Last Jedi's phrasing, is it of the same "let the past die, kill it if you have to" mentality as Discovery, or does it stay true to the TNG/DS9/VOY universe, even while telling its own story (or even just leaving things happily ambiguous enough such that we can tell ourselves that these are the characters we knew)?
I actually really enjoyed "Discovery", but that's a topic for another time. As for "Picard", it's too early to tell how close they'll follow the established canon of the three shows you mentioned. I believe it will, though. The subsequent nine episodes will reveal whether or not it does.
What was??
The premier episode of "Star Trek: Picard".
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To borrow The Last Jedi's phrasing, is it of the same "let the past die, kill it if you have to" mentality as Discovery, or does it stay true to the TNG/DS9/VOY universe, even while telling its own story (or even just leaving things happily ambiguous enough such that we can tell ourselves that these are the characters we knew)?
I would say it certainly has it's roots firmly in the NextGen history, and oddly it even builds on the destruction of Romulus that kicked off the Abrams Trek movies (and not in a way I expected).
and needsless to say it feels very true to the character of Picard himself.
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Getting some really neat Romulan lore in this series.
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I have wondered about the complete lack of mention where the Remans are concerned, who were the denizens of the other planet in the Romulan system. They've made at least part of Star Trek: Nemesis canon by establishing that was when Data died but did they just leave the Remans to die?
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I have wondered about the complete lack of mention where the Remans are concerned, who were the denizens of the other planet in the Romulan system. They've made at least part of Star Trek: Nemesis canon by establishing that was when Data died but did they just leave the Remans to die?
It's doubtful that many of them survived.
Yeah, you're probably right. But ya'd think they'd at least get an honorable mention...lol
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Yeah, you're probably right. But ya'd think they'd at least get an honorable mention...lol
Could still happen.
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All I know is I'm looking forward to seeing what Annika/Seven and Picard having more interactions.
Well no but at least now we got to see how Riker and Troi are doing after being on active reserve. I totally adore Kestra. Great name choice btw, Deanna.
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Well no but at least now we got to see how Riker and Troi are doing after being on active reserve. I totally adore Kestra. Great name choice btw, Deanna.
I mean in the episode AFTER the Riker/Troi one.
Agree that Kestra was fantasic. I hope that after Picard is over in 3 seasons or so, they start up a new series showing the crew of the Enterprise F (G?) and Kestra is on board.
Joel,
I wouldn't mind a new Enterprise future series considering the rest of Trek hasn't gotten that swimmingly.
But yeah I think this week's episode will be interesting.
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Oh Snap
and it all comes together
Bit of a What if here but
Kind of an out there, worst case, theory here but -
Data's creator was a genius and no one since was able to duplicate his work but what if it wasn't 100% his, what if he found something ancient that kick started his theories.
From the start of this series we have been talking about this idea that even a portion of Data's network could recreate the whole thing.
What if that doesn't apply JUST to Data. What if it also applies to some thousands of years dead Synthetic Khan, responsible for this hell the Romulans have been freaked out by,
and what if a fragment of that might have been used to create Data and ultimately Soji
Double Snap
Original Series
Episode "What are little girls made of"
the android Ruk
could this whole thing connect to that episode
Double Snap
Original Series
Episode "What are little girls made of"the android Ruk
could this whole thing connect to that episode
That's a loose outline of the TNG novel "Immortal Coil".
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I think it was more the idea that when you cross a certain line with any technology the worst possible application of that technology is bound to appear.
With genetic engineering it was Khan
Trying to Warp through the Galactic barrier gave us Garry Mitchell
Too far into AI resulted in Control
Once you cross a threshold of some sort, someone is bound to appear and show you the worst possible application of it.
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I got a huge vibe of Battlestar Galactica from the latest episode:
"The Cylons Were Created by Man. They Rebelled. They Evolved. They Look and Feel Human. Some are programmed to think they are Human. There are many copies. And they have a Plan."
It even speaks to how this has happened before and in the most recent BG series it's shown that
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All I know is I feel bad for Seven.
I got a huge vibe of Battlestar Galactica from the latest episode:
"The Cylons Were Created by Man. They Rebelled. They Evolved. They Look and Feel Human. Some are programmed to think they are Human. There are many copies. And they have a Plan."
It even speaks to how this has happened before and in the most recent BG series it's shown that ** spoiler omitted **
That's the story telling angle they seem to be going for, although BSG's interpretation of the science was completely nonsensical.
It also doesn't make much sense. AIs, holograms and robots becoming sentient has been a problem in STAR TREK for centuries, so the issue becoming a big deal in the hyper-advanced period PICARD is set in feels weird.
Wert,
Maybe the reason was because they might advance to threaten the Q. I mean anything is possible...
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All I know is I feel bad for Seven.
I wonder if it's still canon that Borg can survive indefinitely in deep space, and
I got a huge vibe of Battlestar Galactica from the latest episode:
"The Cylons Were Created by Man. They Rebelled. They Evolved. They Look and Feel Human. Some are programmed to think they are Human. There are many copies. And they have a Plan."
It even speaks to how this has happened before and in the most recent BG series it's shown that ** spoiler omitted **That's the story telling angle they seem to be going for, although BSG's interpretation of the science was completely nonsensical.
It also doesn't make much sense. AIs, holograms and robots becoming sentient has been a problem in STAR TREK for centuries, so the issue becoming a big deal in the hyper-advanced period PICARD is set in feels weird.
I have a feeling there's a twist to the whole angle that we haven't thought of yet.
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Over the last five days, I binge-watching the entire first season of Picard.
I haven't made up my mind about some of it.
I thought that the series was true to the continuing characters.
I thought the new characters were engaging and a good fit into the Trek canon.
I thought the last couple of episodes were something of a train wreck.
- So, what was Dahj and Soji's mission? If it was just to "find the true reason behind the ban on synthetics" then why did they have to be mind-wiped and given artificial pasts? (Because the reason for the ban is pretty damned obvious; the attack on Mars.) Who was their "mother" who was handling them? Why did she send Dahj to Picard, of all people?
- The golem body for Picard seemed bizarre. If you *can* make a body that lasts forever and has super-human capabilities, why would Soong Junior, in particular, make an inferior model for himself?
- Why do the inhabitants allow Soong a little remote control that can kill any of them with the press of a button.
- What was Sutra's purpose in "killing" Saga?
- Why does Soji have to be the person calling the machine apocalypse?
- In a utopian society, where nobody's used to keeping prisoners, who builds a door lock that requires an optical scan? And why do both Saga and Soji have access to it?
- If they had Data's full personality and memory intact in the little subroutine, why didn't anybody build him a frickin' body?
So, the synthetic horrors killed all organic life in the galaxy, set up an eight-star system, and left, waiting for organic life to grow again, which might then build synthetic life that would reach the planet, receive instructions, and summon them with a big subspace antenna / portal? Do I have that right?
I was disappointed by the apocalypse machines. Metallic tentacle things that hiss in space. Who can't come if the portal is closed.
I am dismayed by the sheer coincidence that of all the people that rescue the La Sirena is Our Old Friend, Seven of Nine.
Or, that the single person in the Federation who can recognize Soji as the woman killed by Captain Vandemeer years ago, happens to be the captain of the La Sirena.
I would think that a glow-stick wand that can tell how old something is, would tell how long ago it was transported.
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I really enjoyed it, first Star Trek I can say that for in 18 years.
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After finishing the series last night, I found the below article expressed my main lingering thought...
Star Trek Theory: Picard Retcons The Original Movie's Villain
That's an interesting idea. In fact you could link several Old Gen stories to Picard. Ruk, VGer and Nomad could all link to the Synthetic Master Race.