Archetype: Adding Spells to spell list vs Spell feature removal


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I was looking at combining two archetypes into a character, since archetypes that do not alter the same thing can stack.

So, I was looking to add the archetypes of Tempered Champion, and Oathbound Paladin.

Problem: Tempered Champion removes spell feature for paladins, while Oathbound Paladins adds spells to the paladin spell-list.

Question: Although both archetypes impact spells, they impact 2 different functionality of the spell system. Preparing and casting spells, and the other being the list of spells you can choose from. Would this count as two archetypes conflicting?


RAW I think they conflict, but since the conflict is that one upgrades something the other removes I would allow it.


Java Man wrote:
RAW I think they conflict, but since the conflict is that one upgrades something the other removes I would allow it.

This is correct, you can't stack those archetypes. And I agree I'd let them stack (I'd look at what you're trying to do first, but generally it doesn't seem unbalanced).

If it's for PFS sorry you're out of luck, if it's not ask your GM.


As long as you aren't trying to get around the loss of spellcasting, I would probably allow it.

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