Best buffer in the game

[JAMRenaissance]

VoodistMonk wrote:

derpdidruid wrote:

Drunken master/sensei gets infinite party wide ki powers

I really need to examine this further...

The rules are... squishy... about how much a character can drink a day. There's a level of GM interpretation, but at minimum you know you can drink CON*2+1 drinks a day before negative repercussion. Add in Deep Drinker, and that's a LOT of ki in the harshest interpretation of how much you can have a day.

In the most liberal interpretation... The game never gives a limit to how many drinks one can have in a day...

EDIT: Mass Drunken Step is also fun and high utility as well.

[VoodistMonk]

VoodistMonk wrote:

derpdidruid wrote:

Drunken master/sensei gets infinite party wide ki powers

I really need to examine this further...

Best cohort ever. I wouldn't want to play it as my main character but you can get a cohort from Cavalier if you are going for Battle Herald. This drunken sensei is still an excellent player to have in the party, it's like having Shadowbard ALL THE TIME, my goodness.

[T.J. @HappyGnome Publishing]

Atalius wrote:

Is there a class better than the Alchemist for buffing allies? We aren't talking self-buffs here. Just simply put buffing allies.

Bard with Flagbearer feat, Dervish Sikke, Banner of the ancient Kings, and level 3 spells at level 7 grants +6 attack and damage, and haste to the whole party on his opening turn. Defensively he has saving finale to protect the party. Nothing beats bard for buffs.

[deuxhero]

Oracle or Cleric with an animal companion gets good mileage out of shoving the self only combat buffs onto a semi-expendable combatant, but the only ally it really buffs most of the time is the AC. Beyond that Evangelist Cleric has the best buff class features of a bard, a domain that can buff, and cleric buff spells. You can of course combine the two, though finding someone who gives the Animal domain (and preferablly feather subdomain) and isn't a weird choice for an Evangelist is a bit tricky.

[VoodistMonk]

Let me elaborate...

If you want to be a Battle Herald, take two levels of human Polearm Master Fighter, exactly enough levels of Cavalier to get the cohort and challenge, and all the levels of Arcane Duelist Bard until Battle Herald for your last 10 levels.

Your drunken sensei cohort covers inspire courage, so you can focus on anything else and have both covering the party together.

[VoodistMonk]

Looks like human fighter 2, Esquire Cavalier 4, Arcane Duelist Bard 4, Battle Herald 10...

With a level 17 drunken sensei cohort.

Since the cohort gets the Cavalier Banner, have him focus on greater trip with a temple sword or something since he does not need Flagbearer.

You, as the battle herald, take Flagbearer, banner of ancient kings, blah blah blah.

[AlastarOG]

I think most DMS ban leadership or cohorts for reasons such as those you elaborated here.

[VoodistMonk]

Does that mean those archetypes are not allowed. The Esquire Cavalier is mentioned in a PFS Battle Herald write up. The cohort is specifically allowed to take plural archetypes.

[JAMRenaissance]

Give that Sensei two levels of Ninja and Forgotten Trick as the Ninja Trick. You just added to your list of abilities to distribute an extra attack each round that stacks with Haste, Vanish, and any given combat feat to the whole team. Giving everyone an extra teamwork combat feat is worth a ki point.

You can safely stop the Sensei at level 15; you've pretty much gotten everything you need there.

Last thought - add in the Monk of the Lotus archetype, which stacks with all three of Sensei, Drunken Master, and Ki Mystic. Stunning Fist becomes Touch of Serenity (Fort Save vs Will Save), but more importantly, levels 12 and 15 offer no save Charm Monster on your foes. So at level 12 via Mystic Wisdom, whenever ANYONE takes a foe down to 0 hp you can "save" them as that person's pet without a Save.

[AlastarOG]

VoodistMonk wrote:

Does that mean those archetypes are not allowed. The Esquire Cavalier is mentioned in a PFS Battle Herald write up. The cohort is specifically allowed to take plural archetypes.

Not specifically but I think banning cohorts is the most common house rules I've ever seen, since they're stupid broken. Like so broken it makes no sense to play literally anything else or get any other feat.

Fixes or replacements vary DM to dm

[VoodistMonk]

That's fair. Still makes for an excellent team, with a drunken sensei and a battle herald always watching each other's backs. You could take two levels of polearm master fighter for the close in attack or one level of pretty much any fighter for shield focus and shield brace for use with Flagbearer and a longspear, one level of standard bearer cavalier, seven or eight levels of arcane duelist or stonesinger bard and ten levels of battle herald. Someone else could be a drunken sensei monk focused on greater trip with a reach weapon whilst covering inspired courage leaving the bard to some performance the sensei doesn't get, and all the magic the bard gets that the monk doesn't. However the monk gives the team monk stuff that the bard just cannot.

[Wiggz]

For me, I've always liked the Evangelist Cleric with the Heroism subdomain.

At 8th level they can use the opening round to:

1) Grant everyone in their party Heroism as a swift action.

2) Begin Inspire Courage as a move action.

3) Cast Blessing of Fervor as a standard action.

In a single turn, all of your allies gain:

+6 to attack rolls
+2 to skill checks
+2 to AC
+2 to Fortitude saves
+4 to Reflex saves
+2 to Will saves

And then, of course you can add on to that chassis as you wish...

[The King In Yellow]

It has been mentioned already, but really nothing compares to a brown fur transmuter arcanist.

Nothing.

(And since high level play has been mentioned...)

“Why yes, yes I did just drop an extended shapechange on the fighter.”

[Flutter]

deuxhero wrote:

Oracle or Cleric with an animal companion gets good mileage out of shoving the self only combat buffs onto a semi-expendable combatant

tap. tap. taps. Pointy stick

[Grandlounge]

My evangilist cleric has a grapple spec'd animal companion the combination works quite well.

[Rub-Eta]

Atalius wrote:

He's able to use 'you' only spells to buff allies.

Thing is, he can't cast them himself. Everyone else needs to spend their own actions to get the buffs. And the infusions can't target multiple characters.

[Atalius]

Grandlounge wrote:

My evangilist cleric has a grapple spec'd animal companion the combination works quite well.

Whatchu got? Titanoboa?

PS: check your inbox :)

[Grandlounge]

Titanoboa is great. This character is using a tiger. The choice is for story reasons he is the older brother of another PFS character (my third RPG character ever). He was turned to stone on his first adventure (this was my second RPG character). So he has to fit many of the same tropes as his brother not that he has been brought back to life.