Adventurer's Guide - Involutionist Questions


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Hello fellow Pathfinders,

I recently discovered the Involutionist Archetype in the Adventurer's Guide.

The issue in question comes from these sections:

"When fully manifested, the involutionist’s spirit phantom gains the special ability normally applied to a shaman’s spirit animal."

and

"At 3rd level, when an involutionist uses her bonded manifestation ability, she can instead manifest her spirit phantom’s spirit animal special ability and use her spirit phantom’s hexes as if they were her own. Hexes used during this manifestation count toward any limited number of uses per day."

Looking at them I am not quite sure how they works or, more precisely, which abilities are aquired or how they work.

1. If I take for example the life spirit, does the phantom gain Fast Healing since that is the ability APPLIED TO the spirit or does it gain Channel Energy since that is the actual SPIRIT ABILITY?
2. If it is the latter, or in case of any hex that depends on attributes, etc., do the spirit's attributes / feats govern the number of uses / DCs of the abilities or are those based on the Involutionist's attributes / feats?
3. If the spirit gains Channel Energy and takes the Selective Channeling Feat, can the Involutionist make use of that feat when using bonded manifestation or does he have to take it himself as well? What about Extra Channel?
4. If it is not the Channel Energy but the Fast Healing does that mean that taking that spirit and the Life Link Hex, you can basically ALWAYS heal all of the party back up to (Max HP-4) without expending ANY resources other then time?

Shadow Lodge

1. Fast Healing is the ability normally applied to the spirit animal.

2. I think the spiritualist's - it says the spiritualist uses them "as if they were her own" which would include using her own stats, absent other specific instructions to use the phantom's.

3. I don't think you can use the phantom's feats. Same reasoning as 2.

4. Looks like it.

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