Items to help tame something

[InfinityKage]

So, I've run into a spiderbear (don't ask). I've decided that I'd like to keep this animal as a pet/companion. Does having items related to handling animals help me train it? So far I have it charmed. I have a beast whistle in my possession. I'm thinking about grabbing a Ring of Animal Friendship and Circlet of Speaking. Would these things make training it easier? Is there a better way?

[Eltacolibre]

It depends...if it is a vermin type, you technically can't train it unless you take some specific archetypes or feats or at least hire some specialist for it.

But well guessing it's either an aberration or magical beast...either way generally means, they aren't exactly trained the normal way like animals.

[blahpers]

Spiderbear
Spiderbear
Does whatever the hell it wants

...Ahem.

As they said, it depends on what sort of creature it is.

[InfinityKage]

Eltacolibre wrote:

It depends...if it is a vermin type, you technically can't train it unless you take some specific archetypes or feats or at least hire some specialist for it.

But well guessing it's either an aberration or magical beast...either way generally means, they aren't exactly trained the normal way like animals.

Ok. Let's assume for the sake of the argument that it's an animal.

[blahpers]

Well, the ring just keeps the charm going, so that's not super-helpful unless you do something horribly wrong. What it doesn't do is domesticate the animal. As far as I know, the only way to domesticate a wild animal is to rear it from birth using the Handle Animal skill, which is probably beyond an acceptable time frame for your adventurer. Fortunately, nothing explicitly states that you must domesticate an animal to train it.

As for the circlet of speaking, it's similar to having access to speak with animals--you may be able to communicate better, but that doesn't make the animal more cooperative. You still have to take the same amount of time and make the Handle Animal check per usual. See the Monkey See, Monkey Do? FAQ for more on this.

If you want it to be as close to tame as possible without raising it in the first place, I'd suggest casting awaken (CRB) on it or, barring that, acquiring a collar of the true companion (Ultimate Equipment) to give the spiderbear sentience. It won't be your absolute slave, but it will be friendly toward you and do things for you so long as you've only elevated the one creature. With the GM's permission, you might even be able to take it as a cohort at that point using the Leadership feat.

[InfinityKage]

blahpers wrote:

Well, the ring just keeps the charm going, so that's not super-helpful unless you do something horribly wrong. What it doesn't do is domesticate the animal. As far as I know, the only way to domesticate a wild animal is to rear it from birth using the Handle Animal skill, which is probably beyond an acceptable time frame for your adventurer. Fortunately, nothing explicitly states that you must domesticate an animal to train it.

As for the circlet of speaking, it's similar to having access to speak with animals--you may be able to communicate better, but that doesn't make the animal more cooperative. You still have to take the same amount of time and make the Handle Animal check per usual. See the Monkey See, Monkey Do? FAQ for more on this.

If you want it to be as close to tame as possible without raising it in the first place, I'd suggest casting awaken (CRB) on it or, barring that, acquiring a collar of the true companion (Ultimate Equipment) to give the spiderbear sentience. It won't be your absolute slave, but it will be friendly toward you and do things for you so long as you've only elevated the one creature. With the GM's permission, you might even be able to take it as a cohort at that point using the Leadership feat.

I see. Thanks for the info. Should come in handy.