| thecursor |
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That is why the Androffins made all their ships out of adamantine(well glaucite, but pretty much the same)
You just put in my head an image of these normally emotionless Androids and their high tech Androffin masters running in terror when they hear a single weeping chirp in the distance. "Build the ships out of something they can't bite," They whisper, "Something, anything to keep us safe!"
What's funny is that Rust Monsters aren't technically evil, even...kind of cute. It's almost a shame the poor reputation they've gotten. Why...when People of the Wastes comes out, I hope we get some sympathy for my favorite aberration.
But with the conversion rules and six bestiaries worth of pathfinder monsters and a further hardcover on alien creatures on it's way and an endless number of splatbooks worth of ghouls, freaks, and fiendish creatures, it's hilarious to me that a humble little CR3 monster that's been a minor aggravation since the days the great beast Gygax ruled over these lands, is now a fearsome party killer if one of them bites the wrong part of the hull or chews the wrong steel covered cable in the ship's engine room.
| thecursor |
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thecursor wrote:Forget the Tarrasque, the humble Rust Monster is now the most frightening creature in all of gaming.Why?
What, if anything, is explicitly made out of ferrous metals?
Carbon steel, steel alloys, stainless steel. A space ship, even a high tech one, is just a big ball of metal and plastic.
But it doesn't actually matter if the metal is ferrous or not...because Rust Monster don't care:
"Typically 5 feet long and weighing almost 200 pounds, the lobster-like rust monster would be frightening enough even without the alien feeding process that gives it its name. Rust monsters consume metal objects, preferring iron and ferrous alloys like steel but devouring even mithral, adamantine, and enchanted metals with equal ease. Any metal touched by the rust monster's delicate antennae or armored hide corrodes and falls to dust within seconds, making the beast a major threat to subterranean adventurers and those dwarven miners who must defend their forges and compete for ore."
It eats metal. ANY metal.
| Voss |
So jacket everything in plastic, and shoot the goofy little buggers in the head. Almost none of the armor in the preview blogs looks heavily metallic, and lasers are everywhere.
It isn't like D&D where the fighter is going to get run down and stripped.
It's a stupid trap monster that doesn't really fit, even if the party has metal, backing up while shooting solves the 'problem' neatly. It is effectively helpless against a firing squad.
| thecursor |
| UnArcaneElection |
I could have sworn that at one early point in (A)D&D, Rust Monsters couldn't corrode gold (which does not react exothermically with oxygen or even ozone), but that concept seems to have disappeared.
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At some point as technology advanced, but before the Gap, somebody must have figured out something to do to defend against Rust Monsters. Otherwise, Golarion would have never been able to make it into the Industrial Revolution except in isolated regions.
| Drali |
I could have sworn that at one early point in (A)D&D, Rust Monsters couldn't corrode gold (which does not react exothermically with oxygen or even ozone), but that concept seems to have disappeared.
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At some point as technology advanced, but before the Gap, somebody must have figured out something to do to defend against Rust Monsters. Otherwise, Golarion would have never been able to make it into the Industrial Revolution except in isolated regions.
Nah, in 3.5 they ate gold. They just preferred ferrous metals.
The way to defend against them?
Honestly, it wouldn't be a problem.
It'd be like bears or wolves. People in the cities would kill them, and eventually they'd (mostly) stop coming into cities.
| pocsaclypse |
There's still a solution and george lucas saw the answer way back in 1999. Make it out of silversheen.
| Luna Protege |
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Everything is made out of universal polymer now. Rust monsters are actually on the verge of extinction now, due to environmental pressures.
... Given that "Polymers" and "plastics" are basically interchangeable terms, and given we've established that Rust Monsters only eat metal (however, just about any metal), I think we're safe.
Unless of course there's a form of metallic plastic I'm not aware of. Let me google that.
There seem to be conductive polymers/plastics, which "may have metallic conductivity". But its unclear if it means actual metals or just a property of metals.
Envall wrote:Plastic eating monster would be very environmental friendly solution to pollution.Talk about life imitating art:
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/bacteria-evolving-eat-plastic-dump-in to-oceans/
... And so, life finds a way, in which all things return to dust, regardless of their original composition. Metal to rust, polymer to oil/coal, wood to ash.
If this gets converted into Rust Monster 2.0, one may as well hire a martial artist on every ship to punch them into submission.
I'd like to say though... Given that recycling metals and plastics is a common occurrence, and the process that does it works easiest on more broken down materials and especially metallic "dust", since its easier to smelt into new ingots than a solid lump of metal, I imagine that its probably now a common thing for Starfinder Recycling plants to keep trained Rust Monsters around as a cheaper means of breaking down materials before processing them.
| Luna Protege |
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By now, someone should have already figured out how to reverse the corrosion process that rust monsters use for feeding, to turn base metallic ash back into useful raw materials for building things with.
In case my own statement previously was not enough... Let me remind you that when it comes out of the ground, Iron and other metals are typically already in its "corroded" form.
Iron ore is typically in the form of Iron Oxide, and same goes for most metals: its already oxidised by the time it comes out of the ground.
... In other words, reversing the actions of a Rust Monster turning a metal to rust only requires "the normal forging process" to reverse the process. As opposed to a new process.
So the statement you're making is one of those "no s!#!" moments. Anyone who can smelt ore can return gear bitten by a Rust Monster to "normal metal".
| UnArcaneElection |
Envall wrote:Plastic eating monster would be very environmental friendly solution to pollution.Talk about life imitating art:
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/bacteria-evolving-eat-plastic-dump-in to-oceans/
Linkified. Also Wikipedia article that has a diagram of part of the chemical process, in case you can't get at the reference linked from the above article (that isn't the actual reference, but has links to it; however, actually getting at them requires a subscription).
| Cthulhudrew |
Envall wrote:Plastic eating monster would be very environmental friendly solution to pollution.Talk about life imitating art:
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/bacteria-evolving-eat-plastic-dump-in to-oceans/
Hmm. I get a bad feeling about this...
Still, though, it makes me think- maybe they've grown past metallic materials by the time of the Starfinder setting? Artificial/manufactured materials of equal or greater resilience? Transparent Aluminum, anyone?
| Zombie Lord |
Triune is the most frightening monster in this setting imho... slowly convincing others to destroy their planes of existence. The book assigns her/him a Neutral alignment, but I think it should have been NE. Even if it didn't consider the planar effects of drift engines as a bad thing, the long term effects can't be good. (Negligible in a mortal's lifetime, but accelerating with population growth and noticable over a god's lifetime)